Granary Wharfe L&LC

[Bazza954]

Does anybody know if the dry dock that I'm almost certain exists here just above the river lock No.1(at granary wharfe) does still actually exist & is it usable.? or can it be used ?

I saw an old photo taken I think maybe 70/80 ish with one of the Skipton boat trips boats Cobbydale or Dalesman in the dock being blacked I think.

Not been down that way for a long while and was just wondering ........??

 

cheers for any info

 

Baz

[steven wilkinson]

don't think so!

[Bazza954]

don't think so!

why so, any idea ??

I wonder if Robbo would know, I think he moores there ??

Edited February 8, 2014 by Bazza954

[Titus]

Surely 'Jus Chillin' doesn't need blacking yet ????

[Bazza954]

Surely 'Jus Chillin' doesn't need blacking yet ????

 

 

Surely 'Jus Chillin' doesn't need blacking yet ????

Well maybe where I've not been to careful !!!

No not yet, just asking out of interest, thinking about it though, I know that they try to charge you for mooring, so maybe the dock comes under the remit of the land owners on that side.

Edited February 8, 2014 by Bazza954

[magictime]

Is that what that is? The lock gate to nowhere? I've never seen it dry, or with anything docked in it, so I assume it's not in use.

[steven wilkinson]

when I was there, there wasn't an obvious dry dock, and the area is well developed for hotel, bars and restaurants! We moored there for a weekend and didn't notice anything!

 

Yes! The developers do charge for mooring outside the hotel and in 'their' pontoons!

ah - yes! There is a 'lock to no-where'. immediately East of the Hilton, That could be it.

[Bazza954]

yes that's it, but it was/is a dry dock

Edited February 8, 2014 by Bazza954

[Timleech]

There used to be two docks there.

We used one of them in about 1970.

 

Tim

[steven wilkinson]

purely for decoration I expect! I would like to be a fly on the wall if someone asked to use it!

[Bazza954]

it still is a dry dock just not used

cheers for that, can't imagine the guests at the Hilton would be too impressed by somebody working on their boat right next to them !!!!

[steven wilkinson]

there are two 'docks' next to each other! But only one has gates!

Edited February 8, 2014 by steven wilkinson

[Timleech]

i asked if it could be used last year, CART's managment werent impressed

 

regards kris

 

i dont know where the second one mentioned by tim is or was though

 

Right next to it.

 

When we were there, with our wooden Short Boat, there was a converted wooden Short Boat on the other dock which was clearly never going to float off.

[magictime]

The moorings there are oddly underused too. The private company responsible for them seems to be determined to use them as short term moorings for visitors only, but of course most visitors don't want to pay to moor there when they can moor for free elsewhere. And there never seem to be that many boaters heading through Leeds at any one time anyway. Hence the moorings are empty or almost empty most of the time, when I'd have thought they'd quickly fill up if offered as long-term moorings. It's a nice spot - central but out of the way, lots of cruising options, only room for a few boats. The facilities are there, including electricity, but no boaters! I think they're reverting to CaRT management soon; maybe they'll be used differently then.

[Grace and Favour]

We stayed there briefly last year - - although the gates appear to be in working condition, I asked the question of the management, and they believe the sluice to drain the dock is not - hence it can only be used as a visitor mooring

[Guest]

i asked if it could be used last year, CART's managment werent impressed

 

regards kris

 

i dont know where the second one mentioned by tim is or was though

 

 

 

Right next to it.

 

When we were there, with our wooden Short Boat, there was a converted wooden Short Boat on the other dock which was clearly never going to float off.

 

Indeed

 

[Robbo]

There's is a couple of dry docks at granary but only one that has gates, the other requires planks.

 

The gate one does work (I've emptied it personally) but has stones at the bottom that arnt suitable for holding a boat (they are not level and arnt big enough, but it's a small issue as they could br moved). CRT & ISIS will be the main issue and more than likely siting H&S for it not to be used. I heard one time you just needed to fill a waiver form but I don't know the situation now. IMHO it's not a technical reason with the dry dock but a management issue with ISIS not wanting boats been worked on there.

 

With regards to charging, they can only charge in the arms, the main north and south banks of the canal they can't.

 

Regarding who owns the dry dock i beileve it's still CRT, but I'm not 100% sure.

Edited February 9, 2014 by Robbo

[Timleech]

The docks when we were there just had a central line of keel blocks, the (Short) boat keel would be sat on those & then the hull shored from the sides of the dock, not very suitable for a narrow boat.

 

Tim

[David Mack]

 

 

 

Indeed

 

 

The right hand dock in that view has a gate which is hinged at the bottom and drops down onto the bed. Seen here when the pound was dry last year.

 

[Pluto]

I was asked about what type of gates these drydocks should have when the new buildings nearby were at the planning stage, as it was expected that they would continue in use. Given the proximity of the developments, that was really wishful thinking.

 

Earlier planners made similar poor decisions. Why does the warehouse in the background have loading bays onto the lock side? There is also a mounting block next to the warehouse between the two sets of gates which would be difficult to access with a horse. I suspect that the warehouse was built prior to the canal, possible in the early 1770s before the location of the junction between the canal and river was decided.

[Robbo]

The right hand dock in that view has a gate which is hinged at the bottom and drops down onto the bed. Seen here when the pound was dry last year.

 

Cheers for posting the photo, didn't know it was a drop down gate

[DeanS]

The moorings there are oddly underused too. The private company responsible for them seems to be determined to use them as short term moorings for visitors only, but of course most visitors don't want to pay to moor there when they can moor for free elsewhere. And there never seem to be that many boaters heading through Leeds at any one time anyway. Hence the moorings are empty or almost empty most of the time, when I'd have thought they'd quickly fill up if offered as long-term moorings. It's a nice spot - central but out of the way, lots of cruising options, only room for a few boats. The facilities are there, including electricity, but no boaters! I think they're reverting to CaRT management soon; maybe they'll be used differently then.

 

When we were moored in Granary Wharf, we looked at those pontoons in the side arm. There was a boat moored there, with his elec cable connected up. We took a peek and it looked "coin driven". We asked him how much it cost etc and he said..."the elec doesnt work.". So we poked our head into the management office.....and the lady said....."oooh....the elec has never ever worked!".

 

Lovely pontoons,

Lack of mooring in Leeds.

Some idiotic management decision it seems.

[Gazboatman]

Just roll up stick your boat in it and crack on with the blacking or what ever. No doubt some bloke in a high viz coat will come out of the hotel with a freshly printed and laminated load of tosh telling you, you can't do that. Just ignore him and crack on.

 

Then just sail off into the sunset when you've done.

[Dalesman]

yes all very interesting, its a shame that there are working facilities. That cant be used for what they where made for

I used this dock in the 1990s until we were told the gate had been condemed as unsafe, the boat sat on keel blocks and the bottom of the dock has stone sets. The dock is also a listed building and at one time was covered by a roof but open sided.

Edited February 10, 2014 by Dalesman

[Robbo]

I used this dock in the 1990s until we were told the gate had been condemed as unsafe, the boat sat on keel blocks and the bottom of the dock has stone sets. The dock is also a listed building and at one time was covered by a roof but open sided.

The gate is a nice new one now.