Peter-Bullfinch Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Today I took a folding stack I have made to Bullfinch to see if it worked prior to any painting and detail finishing. It worked well in a first test. It is fairly heavy however and the counterbalance is a four pound weight. I used the original chimney (shortened by hitting a number of bridges) as the top folding part with a new brass hoop smoke baffle. The lower tube is a piece of three inch stove pipe scavenged from a scrap yard. The hinge is simply a brass door hinge cut down to size. Bracket for the balance weight was bent with some heat and shaped on the grinding wheel. The bottom brass tube, to fit onto the roof, is from a rectangular brass door plate. The hook is from a discarded rusty chimney found in the marina skip. The rope is a test of a monkey's fist round a small ball. The rope has to be shortened yet of course and the whole chimney painted and the brass laquered. This summer I peered at a few other folding stacks to see how they worked as we travelled around. I hope it all works in practise. It lowers easily to gently rest on the pigeon box and with a small flick of the rope it pops upright again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 What stops it damaging the piegon box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 What stops it damaging the piegon box The piece of wood he is going to take next time he goes to the boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter-Bullfinch Posted November 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Or....a rubber domed bumper glued to the pigeon box top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinch Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 personally I would shorten the non hinged part so that the hinged bit lays flat across the pidgeon box as it stands it won't pass under several bridges on the lee, stort, nene also think it will struggle in some of the tunnels harecastle/gosty hill/froghall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter-Bullfinch Posted November 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Good advice hamsterfan, I'll have a rethink about the height now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 How do you make it return to the UP position without leaving the tiller? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coventrylad Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Nice job, but ! I think an internal spring would of been neater and also returned the chimney to the upright position when releasing the pull cord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Nice job, but ! I think an internal spring would of been neater and also returned the chimney to the upright position when releasing the pull cord. The weight acts as a cutter in tunnels and bridges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter-Bullfinch Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Mike, a very small flick upwards on the rope from the steering position lifts the chimney a little then the weight takes over and returns it upright. Coventry lad, I thought about a spring but I never considered an internal one. Its a good idea and I wish I'd thought of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted November 21, 2012 Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Mike, a very small flick upwards on the rope from the steering position lifts the chimney a little then the weight takes over and returns it upright. I see, that's very elegant! Fancy making me one? MtB (Or two, actually!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter-Bullfinch Posted November 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2012 Lets see how it works for real. Its one thing playing around in the marina but quite another out travelling. Can't go yet. Lock six on the Rufford branch is getting new gates. I suspect I will modify the design slowly in light of the suggestions here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasDWarren Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hi Peter, I like the concept, I think the balance weight is more elegant & would be more reliable than a spring that could be affected by heat. Just wondering how your design has worked out in practice, whether you have evolved it further or are even marketing it now ? Regards, Chas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltysplash Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 I like it, but id make the counter balance heavier so it would return to upright on its own with out flicking the rope. The rope would just need a cleat to tie off on to to keep the stack in the lowered position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasDWarren Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Good thinking, or maybe the lever longer & the same weight ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Well I have just had a friend make one for my boat. The pipe is car exhaust and the hinge part stainless steel, its all a snug fit on a piece of 2" pipe that screws into the engine room roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Tony Redshaw makes them too. £50 each IIRC, when he has any! Most exhaust stacks are 3" though aren't they? Not 2". MtB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStringPudding Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Very smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasDWarren Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Looks great. How does it work? Do you pull it down with a cord from the helm, does it then go back up when you release the cord or what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) Tony Redshaw makes them too. £50 each IIRC, when he has any! Most exhaust stacks are 3" though aren't they? Not 2". MtB Mine was made to fit my exhaust, it is a 2" threaded socket on the roof. Tony had some on display at the Braunston Historic Boat show Edited July 28, 2014 by ditchcrawler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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