TerryH Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Had the safety check completed on my NB yesterday. The Woodburner stove failed as the back plate has a couple of holes in it. Can I get it repaired? if so, it is worth the cost? If I decide to replace the stove any advice/help on what I should buy?. Any suggestions on who I could get to fit the stove. NB is in Northamptonshire. Thanks Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 (edited) Had the safety check completed on my NB yesterday. The Woodburner stove failed as the back plate has a couple of holes in it. Can I get it repaired? if so, it is worth the cost? If I decide to replace the stove any advice/help on what I should buy?. Any suggestions on who I could get to fit the stove. NB is in Northamptonshire. Thanks Terry Think you might need to post the make/model to get a definitive answer..... I would have though a repair was worth it - they do seem ridiculously expensive for what they are... ,, Edited October 9, 2010 by MJG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I've had cast iron parts welded in the past. You need to find a specialist welder who can do the job. The repair I had was on a cylinder head and I think he welded it with a nickel filler rod (probably wrong, usually only so silicon!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I'm surprised your examiner even looked at the back - mine just got hold of the stove and gave it a vigorous shake. But as to repair, you say back plate, which implies a steel plate construction, not cast iron. I would have thought that any welder would have been able to overplate a couple of holes at a lot less than a new stove, provided that the whole of the back (or more)has not been corroded by using it without rear firebricks, in which case a new stove would be called for. Steel plate stoves do have a more limited life than cast iron ones. Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blodger Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Depends how holey. My blanks for boiler pipes went so I have bolted through a 'blank' either side; Perhaps you could so the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Right Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Had the safety check completed on my NB yesterday. The Woodburner stove failed as the back plate has a couple of holes in it. Can I get it repaired? if so, it is worth the cost? If I decide to replace the stove any advice/help on what I should buy?. Any suggestions on who I could get to fit the stove. NB is in Northamptonshire. Thanks Terry Hi Terry, not sure where we go with this one. Holes in the back of a stove. For example every new Becton Bunny stove manufactured by Aarow stoves has holes in the back of it. It is a laser cut "knock out" area to make fitting a back boiler simple. Admittedly the holes are behind the back fire brick, when I asked their technical dept it was deemed not a problem quote " if you like rub some fire cement into the area". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I inadvertently drilled a hole, in the wrong place, on the door of my stove so I got some high temperature epoxy putty, from Midland Swindlers, and filled it. The putty was still there several years later, when the stove was replaced. If it is a rust hole, though, the whole of the back may be wafer thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Midland Swindlers, Just why do folks substitute 'chandlers' in Midland Chandlers with 'swindlers' and the 'fords' in Halfords with Frauds... If you don't like the prices buy the stuff elsewhere...they ain't defrauding anyone nor swindling them unless others know otherwise...in which case prove it... oh and I forgot the Fleabay one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Just why do folks substitute 'chandlers' in Midland Chandlers with 'swindlers' and the 'fords' in Halfords with Frauds... If you don't like the prices buy the stuff elsewhere...they ain't defrauding anyone nor swindling them unless others know otherwise...in which case prove it... oh and I forgot the Fleabay one Because it's a joke. I have no need to prove it because I neither mean it, nor do their employees, who also call it that. Cheer up! It'll soon be Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Because it's a joke. It is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Because it's a joke. I have no need to prove it because I neither mean it, nor do their employees, who also call it that. Cheer up! It'll soon be Xmas. Is he a bit titchy tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 It is.. It is.. I paid for Mr Midland's new motorhome, just on the profit from the bilge pumps I bought off him (and if you've seen his motorhome, you'll know it was a lot of pumps). Is he a bit titchy tonight? No, I think he's still full size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Is he a bit titchy tonight? Five foot ten at full stretch... I paid for Mr Midland's new motorhome, just on the profit from the bilge pumps I bought off him (and if you've seen his motorhome, you'll know it was a lot of pumps). Making him a shrewd business man not anything else... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlt Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 Making him a shrewd business man not anything else... with a sense of humour, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 with a sense of humour, too. Of course ... it goes with the territory.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryH Posted October 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Thanks everyone for the advice. I now know the back and sides are steel. holes are at the top of the unit and due to rust. It is at least 15 years old. I have decided to replace it. Been thinking of putting wood burner in the garage, now I can. Boater in the marina has agreed to do the work. Now I have to find the replacement. Any suggestions welcome. NB 47 foot and used for holidays only. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Another thread on new types running here - http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=33644 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) Well Ive relented and here goes, 1] Cast notoriously difficult to weld properly and the rods are very expensive. 2] Bolting a plate to the back would be easier and cheaper. 3] Firebricks in the back will also effect a repair, and I would have thought should have been there in the first place, which.... 4]Brings me to another point. A friend recently went to buy a stove from a back street dealer up here. They had an AGA stove on display and although small, was £660. Their preferred stove stood next to it was £375. He claimed you were paying for the name. It was plain for all to see that there were fundamental important user differences between the two stoves. The Aga had a chrome spring type handle which meant you could open the door without burning yourself and the back and sides were firebrick lined to stop the heat being radiated out laterally and rearwards which bearing in mind the vast majority of installations seemed the safest bet. My friend opted for the cheaper stove and now has plaster peeling off the walls surrounding the stove and a leather welders glove to open the door. One man's meat..... Edited October 11, 2010 by soldthehouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine of Hearts Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 ... They had an AGA stove on display and although small, was £660. Their preferred stove stood next to it was £375. He claimed you were paying for the name. It was plain for all to see that there were fundamental important user differences between the two stoves. The Aga had a chrome spring type handle which meant you could open the door without burning yourself and the back and sides were firebrick lined to stop the heat being radiated out laterally and rearwards which bearing in mind the vast majority of installations seemed the safest bet. That sounds like mine, and it is a very nice stove. Although I think the model name is a "badger", so I'm expecting to go to the boat one time and find that a farmer has shot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 That sounds like mine, and it is a very nice stove. Although I think the model name is a "badger", so I'm expecting to go to the boat one time and find that a farmer has shot it. Nice stove, The differences just hit you in the face when you looked at them both side by side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick and Maggie Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Just why do folks substitute 'chandlers' in Midland Chandlers with 'swindlers' and the 'fords' in Halfords with Frauds... If you don't like the prices buy the stuff elsewhere...they ain't defrauding anyone nor swindling them unless others know otherwise...in which case prove it...oh and I forgot the Fleabay one Don't forget the Micro$oft one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) Don't forget the Micro$oft one as well. Never seen that one - so like all the others it's quite funny first time... however after the 10th time.. .. Edited October 11, 2010 by MJG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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