MoominPapa Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I've just installed a domestic water meter on Melaleuca. I'm not interested in the total amount of water we use, but by noting the reading when the tank is filled I can get an accurate measure of how much water we have left. Anyway, the first full-to-empty run has been done, with the result that the tank holds about 1500litres, or 330 gallons. That didn't surprise me much, it tallies with the dimensions of the tank, which lives under the tug deck. I was a bit surprised when it occurred to me that that's a ton and half of water. The bow does sink a bit when it fills, and the stern rise, but really not that much. The boat is deep and heavy, so the proportional change in weight will be less than it might be with other boats. I don't have much idea what the average water capacity of a narrow boat is. Is that large? It doesn't seem to last us a particularly long time, but the boat is infested with women, so that's not such a surprise. MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I don't have much idea what the average water capacity of a narrow boat is. Is that large? It doesn't seem to last us a particularly long time, but the boat is infested with women, so that's not such a surprise. I can lend you our son to substitute one of the women. Without going into too much detail, I feel sure your water supply would last quite a bit longer! I'd say that is a very big tank compared to many boats. Maybe twice what many with an integral tank have, and many of those with stainless or plastic tanks might well be smaller again..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justme Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 What do you call a long time? When we were using water via a jug & had to spend half a day getting a refill 1000L lasted us 6 weeks. When we could refill without moving it lasted us 4 weeks (still on the jug) Now that its coming out of the taps it lasts about a week (but we are now also doing our laundry & showers here too) Thats for 3 to 4 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelaway Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hi Thats about the capacity of my tank. My gauge is 4 full showers (maybe 5 days) after that it time to look for a fill up. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulcatchpole Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I'd say that is a very big tank compared to many boats. Maybe twice what many with an integral tank have, and many of those with stainless or plastic tanks might well be smaller again..... Our integral on the Harborough has about 1100L capacity based on dimensions, whereas the Rugby boat is quite a bit smaller... And yup, the 1.1T on a light boat causes about 8" of difference full-to-empty at the pointy end. Easy gauge as to how empty it is though at least. PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoominPapa Posted March 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Hi Thats about the capacity of my tank. My gauge is 4 full showers (maybe 5 days) after that it time to look for a fill up. Alex I guess that's about what we are able to do too. It will be easier to tell now that we have a meter and can use more of the capacity without risking running dry. MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 My gauge is 4 full showers (maybe 5 days) after that it time to look for a fill up. There's a typo in there somewhere. 4 full showers is about 3 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrigglefingers Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 There's a typo in there somewhere. 4 full showers is about 3 months. I should say so! Anyway, as you're employed by a mere these days, Gibbo, can you not shower at work as a work-related perquisite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I should say so! Anyway, as you're employed by a mere these days, Gibbo, can you not shower at work as a work-related perquisite? Surely relying on a mere would be bathing not showering? And as an employee I can't afford showers (or bathing) anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrigglefingers Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Surely relying on a mere would be bathing not showering? Um, well, yes, but depends how much water you can be allowed under the employee scheme And as an employee I can't afford showers (or bathing) anymore. With respect, Gibbo, you may find, as a mere employee, that the employer requires you to do so as part of your T&Cs of employment as they could construct that you are seeking to undermine the ethos of the core business by not doing so. Or something ..... However, the relative smelliness of Gibbo aside, given the vast quantity of water you are carrying around, Mpapa, is there a danger that BW may be looking to charge you for an end of mooring mooring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoominPapa Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 However, the relative smelliness of Gibbo aside, given the vast quantity of water you are carrying around, Mpapa, is there a danger that BW may be looking to charge you for an end of mooring mooring? As we live off the edge of the Known Universe in the flat bits of the east, BW doesn't normally get much of a say. That's not a bad idea though: we could probably get a couple of Springers in there, moored to floating pontoons. MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 ...Anyway, the first full-to-empty run has been done, with the result that the tank holds about 1500litres, or 330 gallons. That didn't surprise me much, it tallies with the dimensions of the tank, which lives under the tug deck. I was a bit surprised when it occurred to me that that's a ton and half of water. The bow does sink a bit when it fills, and the stern rise, but really not that much. The boat is deep and heavy, so the proportional change in weight will be less than it might be with other boats. I think most off the shelf narrow boats are about half that size, somewhere around 150 gallons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoominPapa Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) If anyone is interested in fitting a water meter, the one I used came from bes.co.uk, part no 11356. They are currently selling them for £16.77 but I think I paid a bit less. A significant saving on a remote-reading tank level gauge. MP. Edited March 31, 2010 by MoominPapa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 If anyone is interested in fitting a water meter, the one I used came from bes.co.uk, part no 11356. They are currently selling them for £16.77 but I think I paid a bit less. A significant saving on a remote-reading tank level gauge. MP. Though, as ever, with BES, once you have paid the VAT and carriage, it's going to come in over £25, (if it's the only item you are ordering). Where did you put it, please ? Before pump or after pump, (or does it matter). Seems a good idea! Does it just keep clocking up, or can you reset it when you fill the tank, please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machpoint005 Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 MPapa's tank seems on the big side to me, on the basis that empty-to-full gives me an extra 3-4 in of stem draught on a 48ft boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoominPapa Posted March 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Though, as ever, with BES, once you have paid the VAT and carriage, it's going to come in over £25, (if it's the only item you are ordering). True, if you don't need other pumbing kit it might be worth looking for a local source. Because water meters are now being fitted all over the place, costs generally seem to be quite low. Where did you put it, please ?Before pump or after pump, (or does it matter). I put it after the water pump and accumulator. The mechanism is basically a paddle-wheel and it occurred to me that it might be more accurate with a steady water flow rather then the pulsed one at the input to the pump, but I've no proof that that is true. The main reason for putting it there was because it allows the meter to be located in the engine room where it's easy to read, rather then buried underneath the tug deck with the pump. Seems a good idea! Does it just keep clocking up, or can you reset it when you fill the tank, please ? No reset (it's basically a domestic meter). I'm thinking if putting in a little blackboard where I can note the reading at last fill-up. MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Thanks MP, This looks a useful project, and rather more hygienic than trying to dip the tank to establish how full, (I really must get separate sticks for the diesel, and fresh water!....) I may try this some time, if I can work out where I could locate the meter, and still read it. Another "crawling around" job though, so until I'm fixed, it will have to wait. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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