RLWP Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Thank you for the diagram Gaggle. I don't mind using the water of Albert Dock as a toilet as you have indicated, but my game of choice is Cribbage rather then Pontoon... Richard (fetches own coat..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWilk Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Thanks! I want to do this so badly... it'll be a couple of years, and some major work on my engine, before I get a chance to leave the Lanky though Thank you for the diagram Gaggle. I don't mind using the water of Albert Dock as a toilet as you have indicated, but my game of choice is Cribbage rather then Pontoon... Richard (fetches own coat..) Looks like the toilet is in the old Richard and Judy studio! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatross Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Another tip...to use the electric you need a round plug...not sure the correct name, and a card bought from BW..... but check your outlet first there maybe paid -for power left on the meter. There's two meters for each pontoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterScott Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 my info pack ... also suggests that water tanks be filled as time may not be available at eldonian.Typical beedubbyaism. Since they demand that you spend two nights at Eldonian, how can there possibly be insufficient time? _sigh_ eldonian village does HAVE ... I HAVE SEEN OTHERS USE HOSEPIPE TO GET WATER BUT I DONT KNOW TO WHERE THEY CONNECT TO.It's in the 'facilities block' - the backside of the sportshall - behind a BW key: it's a normal screw on fixing thingy for the hose, (which itself is a cheapo pipe fixing that pierces the pipe, and you hope the fixing works properly, or you'll have a floodto clear up). Anyway the disadvantage is that you need at least seventy foot of hosepipe to reach the nearest part of the canal: if your tank is exactly there, then seventy foot is enough: if there are a couple of moored boats serving their time before or after the link, then you have to negociate. It really IS WORTH IT, despite Wigan Office attempts to make it as difficult as possible. The lads who do the escorting are, as usually the case in these things, wonderfully helpful: it's the office that needs a sanity-infusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Bottom line is, we need Elsan at Salthouse, and no enforced overnight stop at Eldonian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 litherland does HAVE WATER ,TOILET , RUBBISH DISPOSAL AND A PLACE TO EMPTY ELSAN "lightwieght cover on manhole behind toilet block". Out of date information - there is a NEW elsan beside the manhole cover in the open air. eldonian village does HAVE TOILET , SHOWER AND I HAVE SEEN OTHERS USE HOSEPIPE TO GET WATER BUT I DONT KNOW TO WHERE THEY CONNECT TO. Eldonian Village now has an elsan facilty - as informed by friendly Denise at BW WIgan. If you want to read our positive experience or ask us any questions have a look at our Blog. salthouse moorings last time i was there was having the mains water supply put under the road and out to the pontoons close to the entrance stairway but i can not say that it is yet online suppling direct to pontoons electricity and water are now connected, BW say last time i moored in salthouse i was told a rubbish collection would be made daily from the top of the pontoon access stairs Just leave your bagged rubbish on the wall end of the pontoon overnight. BW have said that next year they probably won't use Eldonian as an essential o/night stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 nice one john , bw said they would improve things so it seems they have kept the promise. just to add , the tesco store adjacent to litherland facilities is being built on time and WILL be open by 9/12/09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Litherland mooring area towpath closed today to allow contractors to remove the pennington road footbridge in the folowing days , its replacement ( the competition winner ) will not be fitted for a while ,several weeks i was told. All the bw property is getting a good facelift and some modernisation The old wall seperating moorings from the lanstar site has been taken down opening to up to the tesco,s store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanalWalker Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 the marina at the south docks has facilities too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotEver Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Thanks! I want to do this so badly... If you spend some time practising you'll be able to do it well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorman Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 If you spend some time practising you'll be able to do it well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 (edited) Not going to start a new thread but may be of interest to anyone going through. this first pic shows carolina street warehouses "NOT CAROLINE AS STATED IN NICHOLSANS" and in the background the changeline bridge with the same name. The streets behind the warehouse,wharf and where the new strand shopping centre now stands were all named after places in america ,florida ,washington ect. The warehouses which stored huge bales of cotton came to an untimely end after a huge fire " the infamous bootle fire bug" was blamed and my memory of the days following the fire was watching the firemen recover hundreds cotton bales that went into the canal during the fighting of the fire. Close to the docks and with lots of other cargoes stored in nearby warehouses and timber yards a plenty to be fired the bootle bug was on a spree. Many a time children could be seen up the pylons carrying bags full of coal from the coal merchants stock on the wharf , WARNING DANGER 315000 VOLTS IN OVERHEAD LINES or simalar only made them more of a challenge , why if they were so dangerous why did the pylons have six inch long bolts attached all the way up to the top to help us up. This pic shows a site that has not been seen for some years and will probably never be seen again as peel holding have decided after letting it rot , this after the neglet it suffered under the ownership mersey docks and harbour board to demolish it, its enough to make anyone weep. We hung on to the backs of horse and carts carrying cargo from every corner of the world to save walking to this kid magnet , drop off the bridge into the dock and hope for the best. We were kings surveying our fleet of ships from the top of it , until the dock police arrived and then you had try and run while laughing and falling watching a mate who had been caught and was getting the warm ear. oh happy days. please note these pics are courtesy of a man who calls himself rivermersey on a bootle site and he was glad to share them on the basis they are not used for profit. Edited August 26, 2009 by gaggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinClark Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Brilliant photos, Gaggle. Thanks for sharing them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 The lad posting them has said he is rooting through his loft and all his old negatives , i am hoping he finds and posts more from the canal, the pics of litherland +netherton swing bridges were of the same fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanalWalker Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 which dock is the second photo, I dont think its Stanley Dock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinClark Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 which dock is the second photo, I dont think its Stanley Dock. I think you are right! I had just assumed that it was Stanley Dock but if you compare the old photo with my recent photo of the bridge at Stanley Dock you will see that it is a different bridge - the span is not as wide! Also the dock wall to the left of the first bridge is straight, and then there is the chimney to the right, which is missing from the first photo. Also, the building to the left on the first photo is clearly not the Tobacco Warehouse. I think the older photo shows Trafalgar Dock, looking north, with Salisbury Dock beyond the bascule bridge which has long-since disappeared. The bridge is identical to the Stanley Dock bridge apart from the length of the span. Well-spotted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Can you tell from the clock tower? It's on the left of the first picture and behind the bridge in the second. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanalWalker Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 I agree its the bridge between Salisbury and Trafalgar, or it could be the other clock tower and another bridge on the other side of the water! probably this view (but closer to the tower) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinClark Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 Can you tell from the clock tower? It's on the left of the first picture and behind the bridge in the second. The position of the tower relative to the bridge is a red herring here. The older photo was taken from the left hand side of the dock whereas the second was taken from a boat in the middle of the dock. I agree its the bridge between Salisbury and Trafalgar, or it could be the other clock tower and another bridge on the other side of the water! probably this view (but closer to the tower) Like this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanalWalker Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 well i think we have that sorted out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinClark Posted August 26, 2009 Report Share Posted August 26, 2009 well i think we have that sorted out! A shame, really, as it would have been nice to see a photo of the doomed Stanley Dock bascule bridge in operation. Still it is interesting to discover that there were other bridges of that type in the docks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 (edited) It is a pity its not the dock road bridge , never mind he may come up with one yet. I never looked to closely . Another picture shows litherland road bridge 2B taken from the 22 story high roof of the tower block , in the foreground of the bridge some buildings can be seen and they might be old bargee cottages , may have become a scrap yard by early sixties. edit - not cottages. williams toffee works chimney can be seen , worked there and climbed up the inside ladder of the chimney but lost the will to go to the very top. The pic was taken one morning when the lad got out of bed and seen it had snowed so he went out on the roof , no railings or safety mesh in them days , health and safety non existant just stroll around the roof with a low parapet . Edited August 27, 2009 by gaggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorman Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 It is a pity its not the dock road bridge , never mind he may come up with one yet.I never looked to closely . Another picture shows litherland road bridge 2B taken from the 22 story high roof of the tower block , in the foreground of the bridge some buildings can be seen and they might be old bargee cottages , may have become a scrap yard by early sixties. edit - not cottages. williams toffee works chimney can be seen , worked there and climbed up the inside ladder of the chimney but lost the will to go to the very top. The pic was taken one morning when the lad got out of bed and seen it had snowed so he went out on the roof , no railings or safety mesh in them days , health and safety non existant just stroll around the roof with a low parapet . Blimey Gaggle, you must be a hundred years old! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaggle Posted August 27, 2009 Report Share Posted August 27, 2009 55 the pics are late seventies early eighties me thinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john4647 Posted August 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Eldonian Village now has an elsan facilty - as informed by friendly Denise at BW WIgan. electricity and water are now connected, BW say BW have said that next year they probably won't use Eldonian as an essential o/night stop Just arrived back from a wonderful few days at Salthouse. Brilliant trip, very helpful BW staff. Just two points referring to the above. Eldonian does not have an Elsan facility unless it was installed after Monday of this week. At Salthouse, Electricity works fine but there is no water available on the pontoons (taps but not connected) On returning we decided (along with another boat) not to stop at Eldonian but to carry on to Litherland for our overnight. This was because we had problems with stone throwing kids at Eldonian on our way down. (as had the other boat) However, overall probably the best value trip on the canal system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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