Boat dwellers to be able to claim the £400 energy allowance.

[Paul C]

Do you know how many boats from marinas, go out onto the canals and/or rivers at least once a year? Take a guess, if you don't know.

[Higgs]

3 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

This has been explained many times over to Higgs in various threads including this, but he chooses not to understand. 

 

It's like debating with a five-year-old isn't it? 

 

 

The licence is not legally valid in a marina. It is not legally required. The authority that forces the issue is not legally entitled to demand a licence from boaters on private property. The NAA is not a contract between the moorer and CRT. That only exists out on the cut.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Paul C said:

Do you know how many boats from marinas, go out onto the canals and/or rivers at least once a year? Take a guess, if you don't know.

 

I know that in one marina, probably enough to cause a £200,000 hole in CRT's budget, that never leave the marina. 

 

 

[magnetman]

I'm really surprised the original promoters didn't think of the problem of someone nicking the water. 

 

In fact they did think of this problem but presumably at some stage when tolls were replaced by licences someone forgot about it. 

 

One could reasonably expect that having a licence was needed to use a boat floating on canal water. Perhaps not.

 

 

[Paul C]

6 minutes ago, Higgs said:

 

The licence is not legally valid in a marina. It is not legally required. The authority that forces the issue is not legally entitled to demand a licence from boaters on private property. The NAA is not a contract between the moorer and CRT. That only exists out on the cut.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

[Higgs]

1 minute ago, Paul C said:

 

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

 

It wouldn't be breaking any law, not to have a licence in a marina. When I last looked, it was parliament that create laws. 

 

 

[Paul C]

2 minutes ago, Higgs said:

 

It wouldn't be breaking any law, not to have a licence in a marina. When I last looked, it was parliament that create laws. 

 

 

 

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

[Higgs]

Just now, Paul C said:

 

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

 

In what sense do you mean?

 

 

[Paul C]

5 minutes ago, Higgs said:

 

In what sense do you mean?

 

 

 

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

[Higgs]

Just now, Paul C said:

 

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

 

I refer you to my last post, and will continue to do so. 

 

 

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, Paul C said:

Do you know how many boats from marinas, go out onto the canals and/or rivers at least once a year? Take a guess, if you don't know.

In our marina only a few % go out every year vast majority sit on the water unmoved

[Paul C]

8 minutes ago, Higgs said:

 

I refer you to my last post, and will continue to do so. 

 

 

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

[Higgs]

Just now, Paul C said:

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

 

If you are unable to supply your definition, you will have no answer. If you ask the same question again, without your definition, you can expect nada.

 

 

 

 

[Paul C]

2 minutes ago, Higgs said:

 

If you are unable to supply your definition, you will have no answer. If you ask the same question again, without your definition, you can expect nada.

 

 

 

 

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

[magnetman]

Freeman ON the land not OF the land. 

[nbfiresprite]

Freemen of the land are a loose group of individuals who adhere to pseudolegal concepts and conspiracy theories implying that they are bound by statute laws only if they consent to those laws. They believe that they can therefore declare themselves independent of the government and the rule of law, holding that the only "true" law is their own idiosyncratic interpretation of "common law".^[3] The name "freeman on the land" describes a person who is literally a "free man" on the land where they live.^[4] The freeman on the land movement also advocates schemes to avoid taxes which it considers to be illegitimate. Mostly focus on economic reasons, such as avoiding Council Tax, motor vehicle registration and insurance, television licence fees, mortgages, and other debts.

1 minute ago, magnetman said:

Freeman ON the land not OF the land. 

Both terms are used

[Higgs]

7 minutes ago, nbfiresprite said:

Freemen of the land are a loose group of individuals who adhere to pseudolegal concepts and conspiracy theories implying that they are bound by statute laws only if they consent to those laws. They believe that they can therefore declare themselves independent of the government and the rule of law, holding that the only "true" law is their own idiosyncratic interpretation of "common law".^[3] The name "freeman on the land" describes a person who is literally a "free man" on the land where they live.^[4] The freeman on the land movement also advocates schemes to avoid taxes which it considers to be illegitimate. Mostly focus on economic reasons, such as avoiding Council Tax, motor vehicle registration and insurance, television licence fees, mortgages, and other debts.

 

I've already offered him a law-related answer/opinion. And, he could have a good go at disproving it, if he thinks the law would be infringed, by not having a licence in a marina. 

 

 

[Paul C]

4 minutes ago, Higgs said:

 

I've already offered him a law-related answer/opinion. And, he could have a good go at disproving it, if he thinks the law would be infringed, by not having a licence in a marina. 

 

 

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

[Higgs]

1 minute ago, Paul C said:

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

 

FO. YI

 

 

[Paul C]

3 minutes ago, Higgs said:

 

FO. YI

 

 

 

Are you a Freeman of the Land?

[TheBiscuits]

2 hours ago, Higgs said:

You're in denial.

 

I don't think Egyptian marinas require a CRT licence if that helps ...

 

🐪

[Higgs]

5 minutes ago, TheBiscuits said:

 

I don't think Egyptian marinas require a CRT licence if that helps ...

 

🐪

 

Would Egyptians actually say, de Nile.

 

Reminds me of a school joke, using - defence, defeat and detail. 

 

 

[magnetman]

Was that the one with the pony at the gymkhana ? We used to go to loads of them about 40 yars ago as sisters had a pony each. 

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[Higgs]

3 minutes ago, magnetman said:

Was that the one with the pony at the gymkhana ? We used to go to loads of them about 40 yars ago as sisters had a pony each. 

 

Someone from the West Indies might use the words in this way, having heard them - de horse jumped over de fence, de feet first and de tail last. 

 

 

 

[magnetman]

with us it was irish people and when de pony jumps defence defeat go before detail. 

don't ya know. 

[Alan de Enfield]

1 minute ago, magnetman said:

with us it was irish people and when de pony jumps defence defeat go before detail. 

 

 

This is a cut and paste, I have not personally produced it.