Hukel Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Hello, I am looking for advise on what cooker to buy for my boat I am currently fitting out. I was originally hoping to get a high quality range cooker that ran on LPG however initial research has come up fairly empty in this department. Can anybody recommend a good high end cooker (oven and hob either combined or separate) that will function well. Thanks Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Look for cookers with FSD (flame safety devices) or for use in flats. Most of these come with propane/butane thingys as well. For Getting a 12v version if needed, look at chandlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeping Up Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 We bought a Cannon which we are very pleased with. It does require 240v for the ignition and the clock and for a small fan which keeps the controls cool when the grill is used, but this wasn't a problem as we have an inverter (as a short-term measure I bought a cheap - £30 - inverter and put it in a kitchen cupboard). It is very well made and (unlike many of the LPG cookers) the grill actually works. Look on line at the major retailers (Comet, Currys etc) and most will say whether or not they are suitable for use in flats. If they are, as Robbo says, they will be fitted with the safety devices that are required for use on boats. Most either come with two sets of jets (one for natural gas, one for LPG) or as in the case of our Cannon you can buy the cooker in different versions for the different gas. When you find one (or more) you like, go to the store and have a good look at it, then go home and order it on line from somewhere much cheaper. Whatever you do, don't pay the chandlers' prices, and beware that some of the cookers in the chandleries are rubbish, such as the New World one that we mistakenly bought and then quickly sold again on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMEA Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Hello, I am looking for advise on what cooker to buy for my boat I am currently fitting out. I was originally hoping to get a high quality range cooker that ran on LPG however initial research has come up fairly empty in this department. Can anybody recommend a good high end cooker (oven and hob either combined or separate) that will function well. Thanks Hugh As you mention quality rather than price why not dump the LPG altogether and look at Wallas Diesel products, the hob can even provide boost heat for the cabin if needed. You may well have ongoing savings on insurance and fuel also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cariad Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 after a lot of searching for a gas cooker withdouble oven, flame safety device, glass lid and a seperate grill/oven from the main oven we settled for the following: HOTPOINT HUG52K 50CM FREE STANDING from sales@fires-.co.uk for £365.00 back in june 2010 you will need to change the jets in the grill,oven and burners. 240 is required for ignition,clock and lights. when ordering the sales dep't couldn't confirm that the l.p.g. jets were supplied, but on delivery they were enclosed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micky44 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 after a lot of searching for a gas cooker withdouble oven, flame safety device, glass lid and a seperate grill/oven from the main oven we settled for the following: HOTPOINT HUG52K 50CM FREE STANDING from sales@fires-.co.uk for £365.00 back in june 2010 you will need to change the jets in the grill,oven and burners. 240 is required for ignition,clock and lights. when ordering the sales dep't couldn't confirm that the l.p.g. jets were supplied, but on delivery they were enclosed. I know this will be fround on by forum members, but any one with a pillar drill can convert natural gas jets to lpg jets, its only the bore size thats different, the exteral threads (of the jet )are the same, its just a case of drilling the main jet. Not really rocket sceince. but them, we live in a country where we are conditioned to just fork out all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 (edited) Hello, I am looking for advise on what cooker to buy for my boat I am currently fitting out. I was originally hoping to get a high quality range cooker that ran on LPG however initial research has come up fairly empty in this department. Can anybody recommend a good high end cooker (oven and hob either combined or separate) that will function well. Thanks Hugh I've certainly seen high quality range cookers running on LPG - - I suggest you start by looking at the range(s) you'd like - and then exploring how to re-jet it/them (& they must have flame protection device) Edited March 16, 2012 by Grace & Favour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukel Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Hello all, Thanks for all the replys it's fantastic finding this wealth of support online! What questions do I need to ask to insure that every burner on the oven, grill & hobs etc are safe for use on a boat? This is where I have fallen down before. H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Hello all, Thanks for all the replys it's fantastic finding this wealth of support online! What questions do I need to ask to insure that every burner on the oven, grill & hobs etc are safe for use on a boat? This is where I have fallen down before. H You just need to know that every burner has a flame failure device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Hello all, Thanks for all the replys it's fantastic finding this wealth of support online! What questions do I need to ask to insure that every burner on the oven, grill & hobs etc are safe for use on a boat? This is where I have fallen down before. H AFAIK, the two key questions are 1) do they have a flame protection device fitted? 2) Are they/do you have LPG suitable jets? Thirdly 3) What will the consumption ((litres per minute?)) of the equipment be (LPG of course) (You can check on the Calor website to determine their bottle's recommended delivery maximum. And, just for a moment's thought - - - - All the armed forces have access to big ranges to cook for their servicemen - and they use Calor gas - so they must be made I'm not suggesting that you kit out your boat like a forward position in the desert () - but I know that Anchor Supplies have frequently had military stainless steel oven & hob units in stock Give them a call/visit - they keep a great deal more stock than is just on their website . . (and is full of boys toys) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeping Up Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Hello all, Thanks for all the replys it's fantastic finding this wealth of support online! What questions do I need to ask to insure that every burner on the oven, grill & hobs etc are safe for use on a boat? This is where I have fallen down before. H Ask if it is suitable for installation in a flat (or multi-occupancy dwelling). In order to be sold as suitable for this purpose there must be Flame Supervision Devices on all hobs grill and oven. This information is often stated in the retailer's on-line details, but if not the manufacturer's website or email enquiries can answer the question for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukel Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 A massive thanks for all the advise. It looks like we may have found something that complies. I will post the details when I find out for sure. We are also now looking at the possibility of a solid fuel stove. Has any one got any advise on these, any useful lessons learnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 A massive thanks for all the advise. It looks like we may have found something that complies. I will post the details when I find out for sure. We are also now looking at the possibility of a solid fuel stove. Has any one got any advise on these, any useful lessons learnt? What size of boat have you? - - - will the stove be right at one end of the boat - - or slightly more amidships? There are many solid fuel stoves available - from cheap n cheerful, to reliable, to reliable and slightly overpriced Are you after a new unit, or an older/second-hand 'traditional type' of unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelaway Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 I know this will be fround on by forum members, but any one with a pillar drill can convert natural gas jets to lpg jets, its only the bore size thats different, the exteral threads (of the jet )are the same, its just a case of drilling the main jet. Not really rocket sceince. but them, we live in a country where we are conditioned to just fork out all the time. Just out of interest - what would the bore size be for LPG, compared to natural gas? Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cariad Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Just out of interest - what would the bore size be for LPG, compared to natural gas? Alex fast/large burner liquid gas nozzle 1/100 ( mm ) 80 natural gas 118 semi fast/ medium burner 70 104 auxillary/small 52 76 main oven 71 115 grill 94 134 top oven 66 104 the above spec taken from hotpoint handbook. as you can see nozzles will have to be changed from natural gas to liquid gas because the sizes are smaller. i suppose it would be possible to bore out if changing the other way round, but would would involve a lot of hassle to get the correct size drill bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hukel Posted March 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 What size of boat have you? - - - will the stove be right at one end of the boat - - or slightly more amidships? There are many solid fuel stoves available - from cheap n cheerful, to reliable, to reliable and slightly overpriced Are you after a new unit, or an older/second-hand 'traditional type' of unit? The boat is a 70ft widebeam and we are planning on putting the cooker in almost the centre of the boat, so it shouldn't cause too many complications withe ballast. There's already 10 tonnes of ballest in, which we will have to re-arrange on completion of the fit out. I would say we are after something cheap and cheerful looking at the retail prices, however we don't want to be let down by a faulty appliance! We would want something reliable, any idea of how much we would need to pay for this/what's available? Thanks Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jckm2000 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) The boat is a 70ft widebeam and we are planning on putting the cooker in almost the centre of the boat, so it shouldn't cause too many complications withe ballast. There's already 10 tonnes of ballest in, which we will have to re-arrange on completion of the fit out. I would say we are after something cheap and cheerful looking at the retail prices, however we don't want to be let down by a faulty appliance! We would want something reliable, any idea of how much we would need to pay for this/what's available? Thanks Hugh Have you looked at the Beko DVG592? Around £280, freestanding double oven/grill. FSDs on all burners and LPG convertable. They'll send you the conversion kit free of charge on request. We've just taken delivery of ours but not fitted yet. Seems solid enough. C. Edited March 24, 2012 by jckm2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castaway Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 CDA do one LPG oven and a range of hobs with flame failure safety and complete with LPG jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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