bag 'o' bones Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 (edited) Just announced on'Radio Shropshire' that a man has been seriously burned after his boat exploded somewhere near whitchchurch on the Shropshire Union. According to the report quick thinking emergency worker flagged down another boat and transported the man to the next bridge where an ambulance was waiting. Edited September 17, 2008 by bag 'o' bones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Just announced on'Radio Shropshire' that a man has been seriously burned after his boat exploded somewhere near whitchchurch on the Shropshire Union. According to the report quick thinking emergency worker flagged down another boat and transported the man to the next bridge where an ambulance was waiting. http://iccheshireonline.icnetwork.co.uk/01...-name_page.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dor Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 And they are trying to shut down the First Responders setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 According to the report quick thinking emergency worker flagged down another boat and transported the man to the next bridge where an ambulance was waiting. Imagine being "rushed" to hospital at 4mph! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Imagine being "rushed" to hospital at 4mph! If you can't walk, that's fast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Nibble Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 If you can't walk, that's fast! Not good enough! I wanna helicopter ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJ Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 and much smoother than sitting in one of those chairs that they sit people in to move them around All in all, sounds like a very sensible solution to the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRPCruiserman Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Imagine being "rushed" to hospital at 4mph! I don't think anyone would object to a little extra throttle under the circimstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dor Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 According to NBW this explosion resulted from running a generator in the front of the boat, presumably in the well deck. A reminder that petrol and petrol fumes need to be treated with the same caution as gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Interesting that it doesn't sound like it's another black mark for LPG then. It would be interesting to see a comparison of serious incidents related to generators, versus those that relate to gas. Obviously one doesn't know what the need for a generator was here, but I suspect an awful lot of the time they (or engines) are run is to replenish batteries supplying an electric fridge. I remain unconvinced that using an electric rather than gas fridge necessarily makes life safer, although I'll admit generators are quite safe if used and fuelled correctly. The trouble is a lot of people not only store them in unsuitable places, they also fuel them up and run them in unsuitable places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Interesting that it doesn't sound like it's another black mark for LPG then. It would be interesting to see a comparison of serious incidents related to generators, versus those that relate to gas. Obviously one doesn't know what the need for a generator was here, but I suspect an awful lot of the time they (or engines) are run is to replenish batteries supplying an electric fridge. I remain unconvinced that using an electric rather than gas fridge necessarily makes life safer, although I'll admit generators are quite safe if used and fuelled correctly. The trouble is a lot of people not only store them in unsuitable places, they also fuel them up and run them in unsuitable places. Storing a petrol generator safely so that it cannot leak fuel or fumes into a narrowboat (or widebeam) can be a bit tricky. It really needs its own locker but with space at a premium few users manage this. I've got a big petrol generator on my cruiser stern deck and I'm intending to get a steel box built which it will run inside. The box will be vented over two sides facing overboard which also allows the generator to draw air for cooling, but will be sealed on the two boat sides to prevent fumes from draining into the engine space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bag 'o' bones Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 LPG will never be 100% safe as it relies on human input to make it all work! What does surprise me is that it is not a requirement of the BSS to have a gas/leak/CO detectors on board. Which would make far more sense than some of the regulations that they require. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 LPG will never be 100% safe as it relies on human input to make it all work! But that goes for just about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Wilson and Family Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Generators here are only supposed to be fitted in compartments that have blowers to vent the fumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyl Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 On the subject of LPG, I am aware of the dangers as it is heavier than air and sinks to the lowest point of a boats hull and can remain there until the crucial mix occurs etc and "boom" . We have just come back to boating (57' Trad) and although it is a new build with a modern cooker with spark type ignition, their must be a little gas that escapes the ignition and sinks to the floor/bilge, and therefore begs the question, "what device should be used to detect such gas build up" ?. Sorry if it is an old done to death subject, and if so ,maybe you could point in the correct direction. Regards Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottle Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Tony I should not worry to much about the little escape of gas as you light the burners, it will still be that close that it will burn off. If you do require a detector, good idea anyway, put "lpg detector" (include quotes) in google and you will get 112 hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnetman Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 they must have been doing something very odd with a generator to "blow all the windows out of the boat" or maybe the petrol was stored indoors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dor Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Perhaps he was refilling the tank and the vapour fell in through the open front doors? This has been known to cause explosions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bag 'o' bones Posted September 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 What really is strange a narrow boat blows on the water injuring the owner - pretty serious I would say. No mention what so ever of the incident in the local rag the 'Shropshire Star', well if there was I missed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dor Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Front page news in "The Sentinel" though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twocvbloke Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 I wouldn't want to be around a confined space that has a whiff of petrol, especially after seeing this: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cMEIHlgAt_k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Generators here are only supposed to be fitted in compartments that have blowers to vent the fumes. That depends on the particular generator and how the compartment is vented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRPCruiserman Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Inboard petrol speed boats always had (and may still have!!?) bilge blowers to remove fumes from the engine compartments; or at least they did in the 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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