Benefits and Blacking

[Chance]

I have a question about benefits while being a live aboard boater with a residential mooring.

I am aware that you can claim for mooring fees, help with the licence fees and even third party insurance, however, I would like to know if you can get help with Blacking fees, in particular the cost of craning the boat out of the water so that it can be blacked?

Anyone got any experience with this? Positive or negative I would just like to know.

Cheers.

[LadyG]

1 hour ago, Chance said:

I have a question about benefits while being a live aboard boater with a residential mooring.

I am aware that you can claim for mooring fees, help with the licence fees and even third party insurance, however, I would like to know if you can get help with Blacking fees, in particular the cost of craning the boat out of the water so that it can be blacked?

Anyone got any experience with this? Positive or negative I would just like to know.

Cheers.

I doubt it.

Does the mooring  actually have Planning Permisiion as a Residential Mooring,  ie not a leisure mooring where some folks liveaboard, because RMs are uncommon ....

Edited April 27 by LadyG

[Alan de Enfield]

Does the DWP (LA, or, whoever it is) pay to have the outside of your house (bricks and mortar) pointed & repainted ?

[5239]

1 hour ago, Chance said:

I have a question about benefits while being a live aboard boater with a residential mooring.

I am aware that you can claim for mooring fees, help with the licence fees and even third party insurance, however, I would like to know if you can get help with Blacking fees, in particular the cost of craning the boat out of the water so that it can be blacked?

Anyone got any experience with this? Positive or negative I would just like to know.

Cheers.

yes,

they’ll also pay for new anodes and put you up in an air b and b for the week while the work takes place,

 

 

🤥

[MtB]

3 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Does the DWP (LA, or, whoever it is) pay to have the outside of your house (bricks and mortar) pointed & repainted ?

Probably, if you are really skilled at bilking the system. 
 

 

 

 

Edited April 27 by MtB

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

6 minutes ago, MtB said:

Probably, if you are really skilled at working the system. 
 

 

 

15 minutes ago, 5239 said:

yes,

they’ll also pay for new anodes and put you up in an air b and b for the week while the work takes place,

 

 

🤥

 Maybe he/she forgot to add the “r” to their username😂

[David Mack]

2 hours ago, Chance said:

I would like to know if you can get help with Blacking fees, in particular the cost of craning the boat out of the water so that it can be blacked?

You are more than 3 weeks late with this post!

It is a wind-up, right?

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

21 minutes ago, David Mack said:

You are more than 3 weeks late with this post!

It is a wind-up, right?

Well some people on here take @Gybe Ho seriously so why not this new forum member? after all they can only ask.🤔

 

Edited April 27 by BoatingLifeUpNorth2

[Alan de Enfield]

6 minutes ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

Well some people on here take @Gybe Ho seriously.

 

 

Name and shame !

[booke23]

31 minutes ago, David Mack said:

You are more than 3 weeks late with this post!

It is a wind-up, right?

 

Gotta be. 

[Gybe Ho]

11 minutes ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

Well some people on here take @Gybe Ho seriously so why not this new forum member? after all they can only ask.🤔

 

 

What an empty life you are cursed with, I am in your thoughts even when I don't post in a thread.

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

1 minute ago, Gybe Ho said:

 

What an empty life you are cursed with, I am in your thoughts even when I don't post in a thread.

Yes so empty, sat on my Narrowboat in the evening sun, will be out cruising till Oct/November wherever I feel like going, such an empty life and when are you picking your sailaway shell up and starting your towpath fitout? Who is your shell builder?

 If I have an empty life doing what you aspire to, my life’s obviously fuller than yours👍

32 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Name and shame !

Don’t have to, I got slated when he threw his teddies announcing he’s leaving, basically attention seeking. Posters said I’d driven him away, I replied with “don’t worry he’ll be back in a week or two” and guess what? He came back spouting more nonsense. Maybe I can see through him I think he’s an old man playing a game, as most of what he says make little sense and he never gives a decent answer when questioned.

 I thought he’d be picking up his shell by now and starting his towpath fitout, a total Walt of a member🤔🤔

[Arthur Marshall]

36 minutes ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

Maybe I can see through him I think he’s an old man playing a game, as most of what he says make little sense and he never gives a decent answer when questioned

I reckoned he's a fifteen year old schoolie having a laugh. He seems to post mostly at half term or when school's out. He certainly has none of the boating experience he claims. I only see his rubbish when others quote it these days.

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

5 minutes ago, Arthur Marshall said:

I reckoned he's a fifteen year old schoolie having a laugh. He seems to post mostly at half term or when school's out. He certainly has none of the boating experience he claims. I only see his rubbish when others quote it these days.

I think he’s an old man, living in a Walter Mitty world, walking the towpath trying to play the part and talking the talk with his head full of YouTube experience, having never done a lock or been on a Narrowboat on the canal.☹️

[MtB]

1 hour ago, Gybe Ho said:

 

What an empty life you are cursed with, I am in your thoughts even when I don't post in a thread.

 

Oh the irony, when you spend almost all of your waking hours watching youtube instead of going out and actually boating! 

 

 

[Gybe Ho]

1 hour ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

Yes so empty, sat on my Narrowboat in the evening sun, will be out cruising till Oct/November wherever I feel like going

 

 

This post only serves to highlight your sadness. You believe you live a charmed existence on the tow path yet you devote so much effort perusing personality attacks online month after month, either me or other new members. You are notorious for such behavior on this forum. This is not the behaviour of someone content with life.

 

24 minutes ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

I think he’s an old man, living in a Walter Mitty world, walking the towpath trying to play the part and talking the talk with his head full of YouTube experience, having never done a lock or been on a Narrowboat on the canal.☹️

 

Make you mind up, I am a feeble delusional man in an OAP carehome or a 15 year old school boy fantasist. Happy to split the difference as would most members on this forum.

 

 

[dmr]

A boater I knew, now no longer with us, moved a new lady friend with children onto his rough old boat and got DHSS (or whatever) to pay for a pretty major internal refit. It can be done.

[Chance]

No it isn't a piss take it's a straight question, uc or rather housing benefit will help with certain things if the boat is your permanent address but I am unsure if they will help with the Blacking fees or costs associated with it. Straight question.

[Chance]

2 hours ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

Well some people on here take @Gybe Ho seriously so why not this new forum member? after all they can only ask.🤔

 

Not at all straight question. UC or rather housing benefit will pay for certain things if the boat is your permanent address but I don't know about Blacking fees or costs associated with it 

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

 

20 minutes ago, Gybe Ho said:

This post only serves to highlight your sadness. You believe you live a charmed existence on the tow path yet you devote so much effort perusing personality attacks online month after month, either me or other new members. You are notorious for such behavior on this forum. This is not the behaviour of someone content with life.

 I don’t live on the towpath, I take my boat out cruising, the thing with you is you’ve talked nonsense ever since you’ve been on here, giving it the experienced boater while never actually being on a Narrowboat, tales of you and your wife visiting marinas, planning your wonderful boatbuild with an unrealistic budget, all total fantasy while trying to come across as you know all from YouTube. Totally Walter Mitty. 
 Please let us know when this towpath boat build is going to start, or are you just wasting everyone’s time?

 I’ve always thought your an old man playing a game, it’s @Arthur Marshall that thinks you’re a school kid playing a game. But what we all have In common is that we all think your totally delusional with absolutely no canal boating experience as you often highlight the fact.

 Who’s building your shell and when’s it ready?🤔😂

56 minutes ago, MtB said:

 

Oh the irony, when you spend almost all of your waking hours watching youtube instead of going out and actually boating! 

 

 

How can he do any boating, he’s never set foot in a boat never mind got one.

 Do you honestly think this towpath boatbuild will ever happen? 

7 minutes ago, Chance said:

Not at all straight question. UC or rather housing benefit will pay for certain things if the boat is your permanent address but I don't know about Blacking fees or costs associated with it 

Yes, you can only ask. I think you will stand more chance claiming things if you’re mooring has official residential status with the mooring provider and the council. You can only try.👍

[MtB]

13 minutes ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

How can he do any boating, he’s never set foot in a boat never mind got one.

 Do you honestly think this towpath boatbuild will ever happen? 

 

There is nothing stopping Walter from buying a boat and giving it a go. In fact this is generally considered "Best advice" before buying a new one. With a year or two of experience in pretty much any boat, a newbie's ideas about what they want and what they don't can change dramatically. Walter's failure or refusal to grasp this suggests to me you are right and he has no real intention of ever following through.

[Chance]

16 minutes ago, BoatingLifeUpNorth2 said:

 

 I don’t live on the towpath, I take my boat out cruising, the thing with you is you’ve talked nonsense ever since you’ve been on here, giving it the experienced boater while never actually being on a Narrowboat, tales of you and your wife visiting marinas, planning your wonderful boatbuild with an unrealistic budget, all total fantasy while trying to come across as you know all from YouTube. Totally Walter Mitty. 
 Please let us know when this towpath boat build is going to start, or are you just wasting everyone’s time?

 I’ve always thought your an old man playing a game, it’s @Arthur Marshall that thinks you’re a school kid playing a game. But what we all have In common is that we all think your totally delusional with absolutely no canal boating experience as you often highlight the fact.

 Who’s building your shell and when’s it ready?🤔😂

How can he do any boating, he’s never set foot in a boat never mind got one.

 Do you honestly think this towpath boatbuild will ever happen? 

Yes, you can only ask. I think you will stand more chance claiming things if you’re mooring has official residential status with the mooring provider and the council. You can only try.👍

I simply asked a question and have had nothing but a slagging off with the exception of the above, what is the problem with these people, is this what I can expect on this forum l?

3 hours ago, LadyG said:

I doubt it.

Does the mooring  actually have Planning Permisiion as a Residential Mooring,  ie not a leisure mooring where some folks liveaboard, because RMs are uncommon ....

It is a cry mooring a cry residential mooring to be precise but the mooring is not the question, the Blacking and associated cost is the question 

[BoatingLifeUpNorth2]

2 minutes ago, Chance said:

I simply asked a question and have had nothing but a slagging off with the exception of the above, what is the problem with these people, is this what I can expect on this forum l?

No, I think you may of just worded it the wrong way, most of us don’t know what can and cannot be claimed through the benefits system, apart from help/payments towards moorings, licence and the things you need to live. Unfortunately blackening and maintenance doesn’t fall into these categories from what I know. But there may be other routes/agencies that can help in small ways financially, the fact of the matter is most don’t know, but hopefully someone that is in a similar position might send you a PM with advice on the way ahead. Please remember it a public forum and you’ll get a variety of peoples opinions and advice, please just take it for what it is.👍

[David Mack]

18 minutes ago, Chance said:

I simply asked a question and have had nothing but a slagging off with the exception of the above, what is the problem with these people, is this what I can expect on this forum l?

From your opening post it seems you already get many of your ongoing housing (on a boat) costs paid, and now you are asking if you can get the state to fork out another £1000 plus for craning and blacking, while the rest of us here either pay for our own docking and blacking, or keep the costs down by DIYing (and a few just don't bother to black at all). Why did you expect a sympathetic response on this forum? Your question would be better asked on a Benefits group (where you might actually find people who know what the relevant criteria are).

[5239]

47 minutes ago, Chance said:

No it isn't a piss take it's a straight question, uc or rather housing benefit will help with certain things if the boat is your permanent address but I am unsure if they will help with the Blacking fees or costs associated with it. Straight question.

then my apologies for my comment earlier,

 

it has reminded me folk who move into a new home can often be given help towards the cost of decorating and furnishing the gaff, including something towards the kitchen stuff such as fridges and the like,

 

but I also recall other instances where costs are then repaid monthly via a reduction in payments,

 

so I dunno,

you’ll have to present your situation at the Benefits Office.