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11 minutes ago, Cmseasman1 said:

Hi, we are looking to move to Burton Waters in March. We are not new to boating we have been on Windermere for many years and are looking now to broaden our horizons, new challenges. We have a Sealine F33. 

 

 

Have you checked the available draft and airdraft on the Foss dyke ?

 

I think you'll have problems and be confined to a couple of miles either side of the marina.

 

A forumite here has a S23 that was OK but you are a bit bgger all round.

 

The "Glory Hole" on the entry into Lincoln is only 2.8 metres, and going towards the Trent we got stuck at Saxilby with a water depth of 3 feet.

 

The Glory hole :

 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Cmseasman1 said:

Hi, we are looking to move to Burton Waters in March. We are not new to boating we have been on Windermere for many years and are looking now to broaden our horizons, new challenges. We have a Sealine F33. 

 

 

Welcome to the forum.

 

Thats a pretty sizeable boat.

 

Somwhere on the Trent would be better surely? Or the Ouse?

 

 

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Assuming these dimensions for a F33  are correct, you are going to struggle.

 

You will most certainly not be able to transit Lincoln and go down the River Witham, You'll struggle with grounding when heading towards the Trent.

What is your lowest point ? (Is it the outdrives or are you on shafts ?)

 

Dimensions 
LOA: 34 ft 6 in 
LWL: 26 ft 5 in 
Beam: 11 ft 
Max Bridge Clearance: 13 ft 3 in 
Max Draft: 3 ft 1 in 
Dry Weight: 5500 kg 
Fuel Tanks Cap.: 644 L 
Fresh Water Tanks Cap.: 250 L 
Holding Tank Cap.: 141 L 
Number of Heads: 1 
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1 hour ago, Cmseasman1 said:

We were talking to someone yesterday who has a Sealine F42 and has been a number of places. There were a number of large boats on the marina too. 

The bigger boats in Burton Waters never move.

 

You will be fine with an F33. You won't get through Lincoln though.

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41 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said:

The bigger boats in Burton Waters never move.

 

You will be fine with an F33. You won't get through Lincoln though.

 

I hoped you'd be along - may be worth explaining why you know what you know ?

 

 

DEFINITELY will not get under the Glory Hole, and having 'hit the hard stuff' at Saxilby (unless its been dredged in the last couple of years) he'll struggle with a draft of 3' 1" (probably a damaged prop, depends on the keel)

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As said and pictured you cant get past Lincoln.

 

Going towards Torksey the pinch point is Saxilby 

The radar arch will  need to be lowered.

The railway bridge is very low .I had to lie on the flybridge seat

Although a F34 (not quite the same) the following video illustrates the headroom

 

 

I would lower the Arch for Torksey lock also.

 

Downstream from Torksey on the Trent there are no headroom issues.

Upstream from Torksey  I lower the arch at Nether lock and through Newark

 

 

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3 minutes ago, MartynG said:

As said and pictured you cant get past Lincoln.

 

Going towards Torksey the pinch point is Saxilby 

The radar arch will  need to be lowered.

The railway bridge is very low .I had to lie on the flybridge .

Although a F34 (not quite the same) the following video illustrates the headroom

 

 

I would lower the Arch for Torksey lock also.

 

Downstream from Torksey on the Trent there are no headroom issues.

Upstream from Torksey  I lower the arch at Nether lock and through Newark

Thank you. Yes this is what we were told yesterday. It will be different that's for sure.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, MartynG said:

Upstream from Torksey  I lower the arch at Nether lock and through Newark

 

Yes - forgot that - the narrow low bridge just after the Town Lock heading upstream - forgot to lower the radar arch and wiped off the radome and the GPS aerial and bent the 'arch'.

 

Not one of my best days.

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4 hours ago, M_JG said:

Somwhere on the Trent would be better surely? 

I agree but perhaps I am biased .

 

4 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

What is your lowest point ? (Is it the outdrives or are you on shafts ?)

 

The F33 is on outdrives  which can be trimmed up if necessary

But i am not keen on the Fossditch  in my F33 and have not been down there for the last few years.  Naughty Cal is no longer dredging it clear of  weed , fishing tackle atc. 

 

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9 minutes ago, Alan de Enfield said:

 

Yes - forgot that - the narrow low bridge just after the Town Lock heading upstream

Mill Bridge shown here with the flood gates closed 

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5 hours ago, Cmseasman1 said:

We have a Sealine F33. 

 

I may have failed  to mention I have  a F33 also 

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1 minute ago, MartynG said:

There is  a vacant mooring space on G pontoon at Fardon previously occupied by a F33.

 

Either Farndon or Kings marina would be a far, far better option than Burton Waters (still height restrictions but a much easier life) and direct access down the Trent to the Humber and out to Sea - down to Wells Next The Sea (3 hours at 20 Knots Hull marina to Wells) onwards to Yarmouth an Lowestoft - next stop the Thames and London.

 

Not as cheap these days as it was when we were paying 27p - 30p per litre, but a nice trip.

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1 minute ago, Cmseasman1 said:

What would be the difference there to where we are thinking of. Sorry if this sounds a daft question. 

 

Immediate access to a waterway better suited to your boat.

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28 minutes ago, MartynG said:

But i am not keen on the Fossditch  in my F33 and have not been down there for the last few years.  Naughty Cal is no longer dredging it clear of  weed , fishing tackle atc. 

 

Thats probably the problem I had - entered the Foss-Ditch, got as far as Saxilby and got seriously stuck, took several hours of 'utching' forwards and backwards before we had turned around, tied up and phoned for a Pizza to be delivered.

 

 

4 minutes ago, Cmseasman1 said:

What would be the difference there to where we are thinking of. Sorry if this sounds a daft question. 

 

If you don't know the answer no question is daft, but having asked the question it is beneficial to take the advice of those who have spent many years boating on those waters.

 

Access directly onto the Trent and 'deep water' (well 6 foot in places - but you'll soon find where it has not been dredged)

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