Fat Boat

ah i knew i had seen something but getting my areas mixed up they are doing something as a boat from below Coawroast has been given 4 weeks to remove his boat from CRT waters

Alan, i have seen the 30km thing on this forum, i even printed a copy off but cant find it and unfortunatly lunch break is over so i cant search for the thread Wasnt it linked in a thread about the k&a and was a report about the results of their actions and how many boats had moved on etc Im sure it mentioned that they didnt think it was adviseable at this time to try to get everyone moved on by the national target of 30 kms and that was the target they should aim at over the next few years I'll try to get back here later but i know i saw it posted on here Steve

aye chap i have run into that one a few times now, even managed to get them to agree that they would change the size but it never materialised the recent one in slapton could easily have taken a fat boat but they didnt want to consider it, and a friend of mine won it so not to upset. There are a vast number of vacent moorings as you discribe but they dont want to seem to consider the option of actually reviewing the policy, and if they like it or not i have noticed more and more fatties on the canal, 5 alone at one time in berko earlier this year, so it does seem silly to not review the available space of the mooring rather than just reiterating what was there before ho hum

Do you not feel that this could be that there is now a grove lock marina? Or that cart now seem to be more active in putting more moorings on the online auction There are a great many people that want moorings that were not available in the areas they wanted but they are now becoming available hence more uptake? Also some of the more recent auctions have been for much larger boats than previous which means people like me can now have a possiblity of a mooring, something i have been after for some considerable time

hi, im looking at the same pump and i was wondering if you had fitted yours yet and if so any feedback we've read all the specs and they seem to me, my electrician and my plumber to do the job but there is nothing better than asking people who actually have experience of them Kind regards Steve

Have a good one, you will probably pass us at Slapton, Widebeam Sara Rosie with guinea pigs on the side Steve

Good afternoon, i have used the search engine on this but am still a little confused we would like to put a backboiler in my squirrel stove and hook it to 4 radiators and a calorifyer that are in place from an eberspacer (sic) system that is being removed i have read that the bolim pump is the one to have, but cannot seem to find them for sale and indeed it seems that they are not trading anymore. can anyone provide a link to anyone selling these pumps we have found the webasto pumps but they seem quite thirsty at 3 amps unless anyone knows any better. we also seem to think that we need a temparature control value/thermostatic valve between the fire and the pump if so can anyone recomend a good one as prices seem to vary from £5 to £50. any help, hints, tips, links that i have missed, diagrams, information all gladly received. thank you in advance

When we fitted out my boat i had quick turn valves/taps placed in line to the outlets but easy to get to, in the hope that if we ever did have the unfortunate we could at least try to stop water coming in that way luckily i have never had to try them but you guys and girls seem to know a bit about this subject and just wondered if it was a good move or a waste of time/money genuinely interested in any advise thanks Steve

I keep meaning to start the Dippers Club, with club tie with a mark/tie pin on it dependent upon how far submerged you were.a full sumbermersion gaining you a bow tie Im upto bow tie status now

thanks folks, at least he has a price to save for now Many thanks Steve

Thanks folks it is a proper residential but the owner is BW/cart hence why the mooring owner cannot seem to provide any info it has been used as a residential before so it should be registered with the council (if the previous tenent had been legit) but as my friend does not have the mooring tenancy yet they will not provide any info He doesnt want to take a moorning and then find out the council taxes are high and has to give it up again so is trying to work out his costs so to not mess anyone around thanks Steve

Good morning, could anyone advise me how this works. A friend is looking at the possiblity of one and doesnt know about this bit Do you approach the local council and they visit and come up with a price, is there a sort of set price for boats, do they know your there and come to you He can afford the mooring but no one seems to be able to tell him even roughly how much he would be looking at and who he should speak to as he doesnt have the mooring yet so he has been hitting a bit of a brick wall about this. Any help greatfully received Kind regards Steve

wow you must all have met a different Mick or maybe he has cheered up a bit When he took over a group of local boaters went to say hello and welcome him to the area, there was only our group in the pub and he pretty much ignored us for our time there even having to go and find him to get another drink Whilst there we discussed the use of the carpark and were told ok as long as we were using his pub but ask and go right down the end,this car park is quite large, a week later we all (about 4 maybe 5 cars in total) had letters advising that we were parking without permission and were summond to see him where he put it in no uncertain terms that boaters we not welcome to use his carpark outside of the time we were actually inside his pub, and even though we had been drinking in his pub and some had had meals there that and i quote "were not getting it" and was very rude to the point of some the ladies present were visably upset at his tone and manner hence why a lot of local boaters will not use his pub and general feeling is that it is no longer a place to drink and chat but to buy expensive food His rudeness even extends to people who dont live on boats, a couple i used to work with went there on a busy day and could not find a table in the pub or garden but deceided to try to get a sandwich anyway, when asked by Mick where they were sitting they advised that there were no tables but they would still like a sandwich were told in what they described as very blunt (they are nice people) terms "well make yourself known to my staff as it is not our job to try to find you to give you your food" at which point the declined the offer and went elsewhere I know the pub had problems under previuos landlords and maybe he thought a clean swep was a good idea but the way he went about it and his manner are not somethings that are going to be forgotten quickly However i do believe the food to be very good

Hi all and thank you for your responses i do not have much internet time today but will have a read over the next few days and hopefuly try to answer some points, and points raised like the number of potential roving licenses available in an area is one that would need looking at as i hadnt really thought of that. This was just the bones of a thought, the method and nitty gritty would have to worked out in much more detail, by people probably a lot cleverer than i. I didnt know this had been muted before and i dont claim that this is the answer to all problems but it would appear that on here and on the cut there is at least reason to discuss and debate sensibly the question kind regards to all and back soon

i wonder if they considered the mayor of aylesbury jolly up the aylesbury arm last week for which they rewatered the area for his rowing boat as essential

This is something I have been thinking about for a while and now I have finally joined the internet world and this forum I thought I would put my thoughts here to see what the wider boating audience thinks I’ve been living aboard for 11 years now and have always seen that there seems to be only 2 ways of existing on the canals, you have a home mooring or you CC and jump through the required hoops. I have always wondered if there was not room for a 3rd way and for want of better words a mooring/cruising area We are all aware of the problems of a percentage of CC’rs not fulfilling the requirements of CCing but within the CCrs there are many who would love a mooring but from the are I’m in, Grand Union South, there does not appear to be many moorings available, certainly not for liveaboards, Cowroast marina laughed me out of the office when I asked if they had any liveaboard berths for rent under both the previous owners and the current ones I know that according to BW/CART whomever that staying in one area because of work or children’s school commitments is not their problem and is not reason enough to stay in one area even if you move around within that area and if you cannot meet the CC requirements then you should leave the water. Over the years I have spoken to many boaters about this and many would like some kind of compromise and this has lead my thoughts to this. Would it not be possible to licence an area within which you will adhere to the 2 week rule but between 3 points of destination and for this we would pay a premium If, for example, the price of a BW leisure mooring within this area is £2000 per annum. I would propose that a fee of 50% would be payable to BW and for this the boats move every 2 weeks within their area, areas can be agreed we only really have to look at the guides to tell us lock mileage etc and you also get a 3 month winter mooring. This would achieve a few aims 1: Boaters who are faced with a requirement to be in an area that do not wish to break the CC rules and cannot find home moorings can take advantage of this scheme and no longer fear the inevitable ticket/knock on the door and the request to move on, or the fines that I cannot see Cart not wanting to implement 2: This keeps the boats moving and therefore gives everyone a chance to visit and moor at different areas which I understand is a very common complaint from trip boats and all others 3: BW/Cart gain, what I can only see as, valuable income for the coffers 4: CC’rs who do not want to participate can always continue with their ways but this would help BW/Cart police the, as this forum calls them, continuous moorers therefore reducing the amount time/costs to police and enforce the 14 day rule. There is a lot of resentment to BW amongst the boaters I know, and these range from the young to the retied, the moorers to the CCrs, and feelings that the move to Cart will ostracise people even more which means that you could see a lot more people not moving at all when Cart finally introduce more draconian measures to try to enforce rules that just don’t seem to be working. The requirement for people to be in an area has happened and these people are not going to go away and compromise, to me, seems better than fighting. If people were allowed this option they would become more attached to an area and I hopefully would be more willing to give their time to volunteer groups working on the canals. There will always be the “I know my rights” brigade and those that just chose to ignore all rules but there are a large group who would like to pay to reach an agreeable resolve. So I open my thoughts to the forum to see if I am living in cloud cuckoo land, or that my mind has missed some piece of legislation, or that in other areas of the system that I have not visited, K&A for example, that this is just not a workable idea. I do not have much access to the net so will not be able to immediately answer any queries or thoughts people will hopefully raise but I will get online as often as I can And I know CC etc is an emotive subject on this forum, and the canals but let’s try to stay away from the mudslinging and maybe try to work together to see if we cannot improve the system Kindest regards Steve

saw a buttied paid on the Thames one called Tarred and the other called Feathered i know of another Wet Dreams but it has a very small s and e in there so really is sweet dreams but sWEeT DREAMS shared a few locks with mr spall on the grand union a few years ago, seemed a very nice fella oh and our friends boat is emohruo, our home written backwards

very generous with the time allocation there, feels a lot longer than that to me, if we are talking about the same barge i have spoken to him about it and he really doesnt care

i make you right Alan but i like the way the dress it up to hid it instead of oh i dunno some kind of transparancy or honesty, but we all know that is not the way of BW Does anyone remember when they first started using auctions and there were no reserves. BW were saying that market forces would drive the price and if market forces said the price was more than any existing moorers then the existing moorers prices would rise to market forces rate over a period of 3 years However some friends of mine saw a mooring with a starting price that was less than a winter mooring so put in a bid slightly below their winter mooring fees and won and were paying about 1/3 of the exsisting moorers fees When the other moorers asked BW if their mooring fees would be reduced to the market forces price funnily enough "that was not what they meant by market forces" and then we started seeing reserve prices for me BW were highlighted in their full support of the canals in the golden age of the canals programme, turning down volunters and filling the locks with reinforced concrete, but thats for another thread Steve

Hi, i was wondering if anyone could shed some light on this statement for me. on the bw moorings site in the vacancy details it quotes "The Reserve Price reflects British Waterways' cost of providing the vacancy. It is the price below which it would not be economic for us to let the vacancy" could anyone enlighted me on what the costs involved in letting the mooring would be for BW that would mean that below a set value is not viable it strikes me that the water is there (in most places) and the towpath (this is on a towpath mooring i have taken the quote from) is there so what exactly are these costs they must have that bids below £1500 is not enough money for them to register the name of a boat at that mooring, take the fees and issue a mooring licence and then renew annually Confused Steve

www.acdctv.com (could be .co.uk) had some good deals and all with the regulated leads

glad to see loolapaloza made it out of dudswell, one of the few paid for winter moorers I think Mugglewumps been there for quite a while now and i dont know anyone who knows the owners but i'll ask around All the boats from the vistors moorings are in marsworth now, its quite busy down from the white lion to passed the red lion bridge glad you got Lord Budgies boat in shot:lol: is a boat called Swan still up there?

to be honest the pounds below the lock is not too bad now. i was ropehauling the boat through there on saturday (bloody gearbox) and even with a fairly full water level for that pound i noticed that for the whole lenght of the pound and the one below i was scraping off the bottom, the sides have built up and needs to be dredged. If you moor on that pound and it drops more than 6" most boats are sitting on the bottom but there is plently of depth mid channel The summit pound is back up again although there are a lot of local rumour about the flight to marsworth being locked soon for the rest of winter but i cant find any info about it

Hi all, just to let you know that Cowroast lock on the grand union is now only open from 8.30am to 4.30pm, no sign of an end date

Beautiful isn’t it at the moment, been late of work nearly all this week as I keep stopping to stare on my way to the car Oh I had all the windless last year, but I left the fridge/cooker that’s about 15 foot out from the water point. Lots of minnows under the little boat moored there at the mo and its clearish all the way past the end of the marina