Alan de Enfield

Rumour has it he could be buying a caravan, or a campervan, or I could just be making it up.

Sent 3 versions : The BMF, the RYA and the Governments 'official' boat bill of sale.

I've tried but it is a word document and the forum won't accept it. Drop me a PM with your email and I'll forward it to you.

There are some differences between the two, but generally the BSS is just 'watered down' RCD requirements based on what a canal boat is likely to need, or to be subject to on Cat D waters. The BSS cannot make something required in the RCD a BSS Fail, otherwise a brand new, compliant boat would be refused a BSS and a licence, and, likewise the BSS does not require everything specified in the RCD. A boat can easily pass the BSS and yet be an RCD failure requiring a PCA.

One can only assume that it is someone with what they think of as a floating flat rather than a boat. Of course, a floating flat should have access to the same services as a land based flat - including unlimited water. It is London ..........................

There is a huge amount on .gov/UK regarding pemissive rights of way but in essence this sums it up : Permissive paths, sometimes referred to as concessionary paths, are not public rights of way and the public do not have a legal right to use them. They can play an important role in improving public access to the countryside. Providing a connection between existing public rights of way where gaps currently exist in the network. As permissive paths are not public rights of way, landowners may impose conditions on their use. This can include restrictions on when the public can use them and how the paths are used (e.g. walkers allowed, but not cyclists or horse-riders). Creating a permissive route There are two main ways of establishing a permissive path either: through a formal written agreement between the Council and the owner of the land, or by the owner of land granting consent in a less formal arrangement Usually, a formal agreement between the landowner and local authority is in place. This ensures the authority will address problems encountered by users with the landowner. The agreement can include:

By enlarge the tow paths are private land, although there are some lengths of towpaths that are rights of way (footpaths). The owners (BW / C&RT) have granted access to the 'other towpaths' under what is called 'a permissive footpath' which basically means that the land owner has given permission for you to walk on their land. Permissive footpaths can be closed, or the permission revoked, if the landowner wishes - a typical example of this on 'shoot-days' when the permission is revoked for 'the day'. Unfortunately C&RT are not in a postion to be able to 'close' their permissive footpaths due to the agreement the 'signed up to' when they were handed the poisoned chalice AKA 'the canal network;. From the transfer documents : 2 OBJECTS The objects of this Settlement (the “Objects”) are as contained in this Clause 2. 2.1 Subject to Clause 2.2 and 2.3, to hold in trust and retain in perpetuity for public benefit the Infrastructure Property for the following purposes: 2.1.1 to operate and manage the Infrastructure Property for public benefit, use and enjoyment including: (a) for navigation; (b) for walking on towpaths; and (c) for recreation or other leisure-time pursuits of the public in the interest of their health and social welfare; 2.1.2 to protect and conserve, for public benefit, sites, objects and buildings of archaeological, architectural, engineering or historic interest on, in the vicinity of, or otherwise associated with the Infrastructure Property; 2.1.3 to further, for public benefit, the conservation, protection and improvement of the natural environment and landscape of the Infrastructure Property. 2.4 The Trustee must obtain the Settlor’s prior written consent before: 2.4.1 disposing of any part of the Infrastructure Property a) by way of freehold; or b) by way of any leasehold disposal that would have the effect of restricting any generally available public access to the Infrastructure Property existing at the time of the disposal (for the avoidance of doubt the Parties agree that all towpaths are generally available to public access at the time of disposal); 2.4.2 seeking to amend this Settlement in any way (and any such amendment shall be ineffective without the Settlor’s prior written consent); 2.4.3 restricting pedestrian access to any part of the towpaths within the Infrastructure Property; for example by charging a fee for access, save that consent will not be needed for any temporary restrictions either to allow maintenance/repair works or to protect persons from risks to their safety; 2.4.4 diverting the route of any towpath or part of a towpath, other than as permitted at Clause 3.5.1

The 'horizontal' mark (the reference point for height) is placed over the 'crows foot' / 'Broad Arrow' which is the mark of the Monarch and shows that it is an official Government mark which was 'paid for by the monarch' It goes back to the very early days of the 14th century and was initially used to mark the Trees that the 'Crown' had paid for, for use by the Navy, it eventually (by the 16th century) became the standard mark for all Government property from 'Prisoners clothing' to military equipment. And on a MIlitary Rifle

There would appear to be quite a few boaters that are either unaware of that fact, or, more likely, just don't give a toss.

Do we want to prevent WW3, or do we want to have a longtitudinal waterpark ? It's (surely) a no-brainer.

I don't think it is illegal to aply for asylum, but my understanding is that they must apply for it in the 1st safe country they get to. So, the asylum seekers that 'land' in Turkey, Greece or Italy should not be working their way all thru Europe then get in a rubber boat in France and come to the UK and then apply. The 100 asylum seekers on the news last night were from Vietnam - how had they got onto a French Beach without travelling thru a 'safe' country - and - Vietnam is not an unsafe country anyway so one presumes that if they are not in fear of their life, they must be economic migrants. The French authorities stood on the beach watching them get in the boat - a BBC film crew asked them why they had not done what Britain was paying them to do and they replied "we are not allowed to enter the water, so as soon as they are standing in the water we can take no action", when asked why they didn't stop them in the sand dunes or on the beach, they replied "they had sticks and they threatened us so we could have been injured".

It saves having to move - you just need to ensure that your toilet discharge pipe is downsteam of your abstraction 'pick-up' pipe.

Thank you - thats the ones, but I actually have the tidal atlas (book) which also shows all the possible safe havens with mini-charts and pilotage notes.

And being a displacement hull would probably means that he is pushing a bow wave 'half the size of the North Sea'. Boats are 'boat shaped' for a reason.

The title of the thread is : Fuel tank inspection hatch - best design practice which is the question I answered by quoting the size and preferred location. I did not mention the RCD / RCR and I did not suggest that it was a legal requirement.

Remember that if wishes to maintain a constant 10 knts he could actually need to be doing 15knts thru the water if he is stemming the tide. The tides around the East coast tend to run 'roughly' North - South, with a curve around the wash and North Norfolk coats, and can run at up to 5 knts. When we'd go from Hull to Yarmouth it would take about 12 hours so we would set off at HW & the have the 1st few hours going 'with the ebbing tide' and then, as the tide turned we would be going against the flooding tide, and could be hardly gaining any ground, but, we would arrive at high water (if you are considering places of safe haven which you may need to head for in adverse conditions tide height can be important).

Just looked at a static caravan, 5 people, end of July, 7 nights, Devon, £2289

1 to 7 can be (or have been) done by a well founded narrowboat in the correct conditions. No8 - It has been asked before and there are threads on the forum about it. Having done the East coast regularly in a sea-going Cat A boat,(Based in Hull) and having about 40 years experience of NBs, no way would I take a NB down that stretch of water. Not much in the way of 'ports of refuge' for when the forecast changes for the worse, and you still have hours to go. A beautiful flat calm day, we were leaving Wells Next The Sea (Norfolk coast) as we left the channel and approached the No1 fairway buoy the wind, waves and tide picked up - we spend well over an hour climbing and sliding down waves 5-8 metres high making absolutey no foward movement at all, (you cannot turn around and go back or will be rolled over) the dogs were sick it was awful. We eventually got thru it (it was only a 2-300 yards wide) and we were back in flat calm waters and continued on our way down to Gt Yarmouth. The forecast was absolutely spot on - just local conditions combined to make a very rough sea.

There has to be a 1st time !

I'd have thought that even a hose pipe with a jiggle-pump would be better than sliced bread for cleaning off algae.

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The requirements for installation of a fuel system on a boat with fixed fuel tanks are given in the harmonised standard BS EN ISO 10088 Permanently installed fuel systems and BS EN ISO 21487:2012 Small craft - Permanently installed petrol and diesel fuel tanks. The requirement for petrol fuel tanks to be ‘insulated from the engine and all other sources of ignition’ is deemed to be complied with if a) the clearance between the petrol tank and the engine is greater than 100 mm and b) all electrical parts on the engine which could create a spark, and any other electrical components in the engine/fuel compartment, are ignition protected. To ensure that these components are ignition protected the boat builder should use a petrol engine that complies with BS EN ISO 15584 Inboard petrol engines - fuel and electrical system components (the engine manufacture should provide this confirmation) and for other parts, e.g. blower fan or electric bilge pump, use only components that have been CE marked in accordance with Annex II 1. The clearance between a petrol tank and any dry exhaust components must be greater than 250 mm, unless an equivalent thermal barrier is provided. For diesel engine installations, the engines used should comply with BS EN ISO 16147 Inboard diesel engines – Engine-mounted fuel and electrical components to ensure that the fuel components fitted on the engine by the engine manufacturer are safe. The engine manufacture should provide confirmation that the engine complies with this standard. Fuel hose used in the system must be fire resistant if used in the engine compartment and Where fuel hose is used the standard requires that only fire-resistant hose to BS EN ISO 7840 may be used in the engine compartment. Such hose should be stamped to indicate compliance This appears to be a requirement in BS EN ISO 21487:2012 If there is a drain in a diesel oil tank, it shall be fitted with a shut-off valve having a plug that can be removed only with tools. Each tank shall have an inspection hatch of at least 150 mm diameter. The inspection hatch shall, as a rule, be located on top of the tank, but for diesel oil tanks it may also be on the tank side. There shall be access to the inspection hatch when the tank is in position.