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I really have a problem with people that think everything runs for free!! I run my own business and its hard work and I am always last in the que for money for every one pound I get for me three pounds goes to others. The country/towns and cities need money to provide services which people pay for in the way of taxes/rates. So its simple if you all dont pay it will cease to exsist Peter

I have a 2004 50ft trad with very little use(1200 hrs), and on tickover or just above the boat handles well, but anything higher the tiller judders like mad. I have also notice the tiller is very very easy to turn from left to right, and can not be left in a straight ahead position and let go, the tiller will go full lock straight away. can anyone help me with a possible answer please?

I thought they spent it on themselves!

Am amazed at how many seem to want the poll tax back, after last time....

A few points Council tax is calculated on the value of your home. I'll leave you to ponder on the relative values of a flat in Camden and a springer. Council tax benefit is available for those on low incomes. That must account for a few boat dwellers. Council tax gets you a waste and a recycling bin, and collection. For my friends living in yurts in woodland or trucks on a green Lane, a demand for council tax has had them rubbing their hands with glee. Paying council tax is next best thing to planning permission. And they get their rubbish collected! Can you see why I think Camden borough council wouldn't touch this with a long shaft?

Ah, is that why some ladies' underwear has "C&A" written on it?

I know this is a 'Men Only' thread, but the following is (Shirley) a problem that afflicts us all.......if you know different, please post solutions ! THE SOLO SOCK By Garrison Keillor Of life's many troubles, I've known quite a few: Bad plumbing and earaches and troubles with you, But the saddest of all, when it's all said and done, Is to look for your socks and find only one. Here's a series of single socks stacked in a row. Where in the world did their fellow socks go? About missing socks, we have very few facts. Some say cats steal them to use for backpacks, Or desperate Norwegians willing to risk Prison to steal socks to make lutefisk. But the robbery theories just don't hold water: Why would they take one and not take the odder? Socks are independent, studies have shown, And most feel a need for some time alone. Some socks are bitter from contact with feet; Some, seeking holiness, go on retreat; Some need adventure and cannot stay put; Some socks feel useless and just underfoot. But whatever the reason these socks lose control, Each sock has feelings down deep in its sole. If you wake in the night and hear creaking and scraping, It's the sound of a sock, bent on escaping. The socks on the floor that you think the kids dropped? They're socks that went halfway, got tired, and stopped. It might help if, every day, As you don your socks, you take time to say: "Thank you, dear socks, for a job that is thankless. You comfort my feet from tiptoes to ankless, Working in concert, a cotton duet, Keeping them snug and absorbing the sweat, And yet you smell springlike, a regular balm, As in Stravinsky's Le Sacre du Printemps, And so I bless you with all of my heart And pray that the two of you never shall part. I love you, dear socks, you are socko to me, The most perfect pair that I ever did see." This may help for a while, but you must accept That half of all socks are too proud to be kept, And, as with children, their leaving is ritual. Half of all socks need to be individual.

????? Perhaps you think that one has to have been born in a back cabin, or at least have a close relative who was, in order to qualify as a "boaty person". While it is true that we are lucky enough to have some people on here whose connection with the waterways goes back generations, I suggest that most of us have not been "boaty people" all our lives. In our case it was taking a hire boat holiday (chosen almost at random from a number of summer holiday options) in 1994 which kindled our interest in and enthusiasm for boats and waterways. Everybody has to start somewhere, and the new CCer who doesn't start off as what you would consider to be a boaty person may well become one after living afloat for a while.