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Pretty much as it says really

 

Does anyone know of its current where abouts (hopefully not demise) and got any piccies?

 

From the Heritage Working Boats site:

 

"At the end of 2003, the empty hull was towed down the River Severn to Gloucester. It was grit blasted and primed in Tommy Nielson’s boat shed and now awaits a decision on its future"

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BuckbyLocks

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Don't blame you for changing it to Steve!

 

:D

 

Tim

 

originally built as 'Birmingham' in 1912. Section 8ed donkeys years ago and has been in the BW 'Working Boats' scheme ever since. Last summer it was certainly on the bank in front of the Tardebigge BW Offces, sans cabin and covered in a canvas cover, with an interpretation panel. I didn't have time to study the latter in great detail, but it looked a bit sad and neglected.

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Laurence Hogg

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originally built as 'Birmingham' in 1912. Section 8ed donkeys years ago and has been in the BW 'Working Boats' scheme ever since. Last summer it was certainly on the bank in front of the Tardebigge BW Offces, sans cabin and covered in a canvas cover, with an interpretation panel. I didn't have time to study the latter in great detail, but it looked a bit sad and neglected.

 

I can confirm it is at Tardebigge. One of the pristine examples of how a mismanaged project wasted Lottery money. If you knew how much BW spent in sandblasting that hull, blacking it and mounting on a plinth, you will be wondering why they didnt fully restore the boat for the same amount. Most of the hard work was done by volunteers. I made a request to HLF for the accounts regarding the "Working boats project" what I received was laughable and to this day I have yet to see them. I dont know how to upload the excell file I have so heres the info on "Birmingham", have a laugh!

 

 

4019691 220050 010 Workshop Goods Value Manufacture Three of support cradles 3,105.00 27/01/2005

P/00332/1/03/07 240900 004 Plant Hire Costs Hire of crane, low loader and lift Manag 2,100.00 26/07/2004

P/00332/1/03/07 240900 003 Plant Hire Costs Crane lift and hire 950.00 24/06/2004

P/00332/1/03/07 241300 008 Plant Serv & Rep Crane hire for the Boat B'ham 1,150.00 17/11/2003

P/00332/1/03/07 241300 010 Plant Serv & Rep Phase 1, Restoration, B'ham 4,016.00 20/01/2004

P/00332/1/03/07 241300 009 Plant Serv & Rep Boat Birmingham conservation to correct WBS 15,400.00 31/12/2004

P/00332/1/03/07 290300 010 Prof Fee Surveying Survey of the Historic Boat Birmingham 230.00 29/01/2004

 

 

26,951.00

 

from claim 1 surveyors fee 200

 

27,151.00

 

Survey 430.00

Restoration 19,416.00

Crane 4,200.00

Support Cradles 3,105.00

 

 

27,151.00

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I can confirm it is at Tardebigge. One of the pristine examples of how a mismanaged project wasted Lottery money. If you knew how much BW spent in sandblasting that hull, blacking it and mounting on a plinth, you will be wondering why they didnt fully restore the boat for the same amount. Most of the hard work was done by volunteers. I made a request to HLF for the accounts regarding the "Working boats project" what I received was laughable and to this day I have yet to see them. I dont know how to upload the excell file I have so heres the info on "Birmingham", have a laugh!

 

 

4019691 220050 010 Workshop Goods Value Manufacture Three of support cradles 3,105.00 27/01/2005

P/00332/1/03/07 240900 004 Plant Hire Costs Hire of crane, low loader and lift Manag 2,100.00 26/07/2004

P/00332/1/03/07 240900 003 Plant Hire Costs Crane lift and hire 950.00 24/06/2004

P/00332/1/03/07 241300 008 Plant Serv & Rep Crane hire for the Boat B'ham 1,150.00 17/11/2003

P/00332/1/03/07 241300 010 Plant Serv & Rep Phase 1, Restoration, B'ham 4,016.00 20/01/2004

P/00332/1/03/07 241300 009 Plant Serv & Rep Boat Birmingham conservation to correct WBS 15,400.00 31/12/2004

P/00332/1/03/07 290300 010 Prof Fee Surveying Survey of the Historic Boat Birmingham 230.00 29/01/2004

 

 

26,951.00

 

from claim 1 surveyors fee 200

 

27,151.00

 

Survey 430.00

Restoration 19,416.00

Crane 4,200.00

Support Cradles 3,105.00

 

 

27,151.00

 

So you could expect to put an old work boat back to good condition for that amount of money? Never really seen the costs involved for restoring such a boat.

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Laurence Hogg

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So you could expect to put an old work boat back to good condition for that amount of money? Never really seen the costs involved for restoring such a boat.

 

I was working at Bradley workshops (for myself not BW) during the time the boat was there. £27k could have been spent a lot wiser. Without doubt I think the cabin could have been restored and a power unit refitted. I have just been involved with a similar workload on a boat which not including the engine has cost approx £12K so given that and a knowledge of what was required I think it was possible. The costing breakdowns make crazy reading on any of the Working Boats Project boats compared to what real people in the real world would spend. I would have liked to see the instigator of this project questioned about the spend. When asked what bank account our donation was paid into she (Eliza Botham) couldnt remember!

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BuckbyLocks

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For interest incase not seen http://www.heritageworkingboats.org.uk/bir...ham-history.pdf

 

 

If it was Simon who told BW that the Section 8ed boat was this one, then there were two people who did as I sent Tony Conder, then boss of Gloucester's BW Museum off on the trail and it was TC who oversaw the transfer to the Working Boats project, pre the Lottery being involved.

 

 

"Thanks for the info so far.

 

I'll have to take a trip to Tardebigge and have a look.

 

It it the 'covered' boat shape: Link "

 

Yes if you mean by the red and white cars. Looks huge in that picture.

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