silverlode Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Hello lovely people, I just wondered if anyone in the Sale - Castlefield area had an Aquavac I could borrow for a day or so? There's water in the engine bay (it's not increasing, I think it's from a particularly bad rainstorm a few weeks ago) and also there's a spot in the bilge. I've yet to find the source of that; possibly from VERY leaky windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 You bilge pump should take care of it. How deep is the water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlode Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 You bilge pump should take care of it. How deep is the water? It's not enough to set off the pump, I just thought it would be better to dry it out completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I always carry a pack of babys nappies for water that I can't get to or get out of certain spaces, Just open one up, put it in and leave it for a day or so, it always works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernboater Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) What's wrong with just using a mop and bucket for the engine bay, you should get most of it out and fairly dry with one? Then just run the engine to get some heat in there to finally dry Edited February 5, 2017 by Northernboater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlode Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) I always carry a pack of babys nappies for water that I can't get to or get out of certain spaces, Just open one up, put it in and leave it for a day or so, it always works for me. Brilliant idea, thank you!! What's wrong with just using a mop and bucket for the engine bay, you should get most of it out and fairly dry with one? Then just run the engine to get some heat in there to finally dryNothing wrong with it.. just less time consuming with an Aquavac. Edited February 5, 2017 by silverlode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 You bilge pump should take care of it. How deep is the water? There shouldn't BE a bilge puimp in the engine bay, should there? A BSS fail, I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernboater Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Brilliant idea, thank you!! Nothing wrong with it.. just less time consuming with an Aquavac. It would take 5 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlode Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) It would take 5 minutesIn that case, anyone nearby have a mop and bucket I could borrow? I can't afford to buy one at the moment. There shouldn't BE a bilge puimp in the engine bay, should there? A BSS fail, I think... ? Edited February 5, 2017 by silverlode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 In that case, anyone nearby have a mop and bucket I could borrow? I can't afford to buy one at the moment. ? Engine bay water is sometimes contaminated with oil/antifreeze/etc that shouldn't be pumped out into the cut. I'm fairly sure there is a provision in the BSS banning engine bay bilge pumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 There shouldn't BE a bilge puimp in the engine bay, should there? A BSS fail, I think... Then you're wrong ! Every boat with a rear engine will have a bilge pump under the stern tube which is in the engine bay. Some means of catching any oil / coolant leaks is normally provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlode Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Engine bay water is sometimes contaminated with oil/antifreeze/etc that shouldn't be pumped out into the cut. I'm fairly sure there is a provision in the BSS banning engine bay bilge pumps. Ah, I see - well maybe it's just for emergencies? My boat passed its BSS, so not sure about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyboy Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Engine bay water is sometimes contaminated with oil/antifreeze/etc that shouldn't be pumped out into the cut. I'm fairly sure there is a provision in the BSS banning engine bay bilge pumps. Wrong again! BSS regs. Chapter 9 30 & 31 & pages 1-6 refers. Nowhere does it say you can't have a bilge pump in the engine room & certainly no use of the word banned. http://www.boatsafetyscheme.org/media/180428/bss%20guide%202005%20complete%20web.pdf Edited February 5, 2017 by Flyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlode Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Then you're wrong ! Every boat with a rear engine will have a bilge pump under the stern tube which is in the engine bay. Some means of catching any oil / coolant leaks is normally provided. I know that my boat wouldn't be standing (floating?!) if it weren't for the engine bay bilge pump - canal water isn't the problem; rain is the bane of my life!! Sorted my leaky windows, just need to save up for a cover for the stern... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernboater Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) I think you will confuse her now as most people have their bilge pumps under their stern gland and people class the whole area as engine bay. You can't have a bilge pump under the engine in the oil trap area which should be a sealed area. BSS 2015 Third edition page 64, Bilge pumps and contamination. Edited February 5, 2017 by Northernboater 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtB Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Ah, I see - well maybe it's just for emergencies? My boat passed its BSS, so not sure about that. It's more complicated than I remembered. Its a 'polution control' issue. Here's the reference on the BSS site: http://www.boatsafetyscheme.org/media/164548/bss%20guide%20chap9.pdf See section 9.1.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terryb Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Try the pound shop for puppy training pads I find them better than nappies . Rubber gloves and a sponge, then just lay one down for a couple of minutes . Presto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlode Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) I think you will confuse her now as most people have their bilge pumps under their stern gland and people class the whole area as engine bay. You can't have a bilge pump under the engine in the oil trap area which should be a sealed area.Yes, I should've specified it was under the stern gland. Try the pound shop for puppy training pads I find them better than nappies . Rubber gloves and a sponge, then just lay one down for a couple of minutes . Presto.Will do that, thank you! Edited February 5, 2017 by silverlode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernboater Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Yes, I should've specified it was under the stern gland. Yes I think most people knew where you were coming from, Mike the Boilerman just threw his bit in for some reason. Edited February 5, 2017 by Northernboater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) I think you will confuse her now as most people have their bilge pumps under their stern gland and people class the whole area as engine bay. You can't have a bilge pump under the engine in the oil trap area which should be a sealed area. BSS 2015 Third edition page 64, Bilge pumps and contamination. Well actually you can have a bilge pump under the engine if the oil drips can't be contained (one of my boats can't), the pump needs to go via a filter. Edited February 5, 2017 by Robbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernboater Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Well actually you can have a bilge pump under the engine if the oil drips can't be contained (one of my boats can't), the pump needs to go via a filter. Yes and all the requirements are in the BSS 3rd Edition 2015 section 9.1.2 Bilge pumping and avoiding pollution, If anyone wants to read it. But the OP is not interested in that, she just wants to get some water out of her engine bay so why confuse matters? Edited February 5, 2017 by Northernboater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Yes and all the requirements are in the BSS 3rd Edition 2015 section 9.1.2 Bilge pumping and avoiding pollution, If anyone wants to read it. But the OP is not interested in that, she just wants to get some water out of her engine bay so why confuse matters? Because what you said was wrong and you even pointed to a document showing you were incorrect! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernboater Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Because what you said was wrong and you even pointed to a document showing you were incorrect! Was I? If I was that bothered about it I would of mentioned the filter and all the requirements about pumps and filters. As I said the OP is on about getting rid of water, not all the requirements about bilge pump fitting in a engine bay or oil trap. If your that bothered about it go and start a thread in the relevant section and tell everyone you have a bilge pump and a filter in your sealed oil trap because you have a oil leak. Edited February 5, 2017 by Northernboater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Was I? If I was that bothered about it I would of mentioned the filter and all the requirements. As I said the OP is on about getting rid of water not all the requirements about bilge pump fitting in a oil trap. If your that bothered about it go and start a thread in the relevant section and tell everyone you have a bilge pump in your sealed oil trap because you have a oil leak. You were the one that brought it up! And I don't have a sealed oil area or a leak, I have a bilge pump for the engine bay. The engine doesn't have a sealed area for oil leaks it goes into the engine bay along with the stern gland drips and rain, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northernboater Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) You were the one that brought it up! And I don't have a sealed oil area or a leak, I have a bilge pump for the engine bay. The engine doesn't have a sealed area for oil leaks it goes into the engine bay along with the stern gland drips and rain, etc. You may find it was Boilerman that brought it up, saying it was a BSS fail to have a bilge pump in the engine bay but did not mention the sealed engine oil trap, but you and I know it's not if all the correct anti-pollution procedures and filters are in place. You don't have an oil trap so you need the filter system in place. The OP just wants to remove her water and is not interested in bilge pump placement, contamination or PPM filters. Edited February 5, 2017 by Northernboater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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