Surfing on the cut

[Adam]

Hi what diffrent ways can you surf the net on the cut

 

if you are in a city can you pick up some comanys wireless

 

and can you get aother boaters wireless???

[Bobphilips]

Hi what diffrent ways can you surf the net on the cut

 

if you are in a city can you pick up some comanys wireless

 

and can you get aother boaters wireless???

 

There is a company called www.mesltd.co.uk who offer a system that had a range of 10km. You can then see all the available wireless networks there and select the one you want to piggy back. Obviously, it is naughty to connect to a private network but you should be able to see a reasonable number of networks that are available for use. The system was reviewed on page 19 in Issue 15 of Towpath Talk

 

Hope the above helps.

[carlt]

The system was reviewed on page 19 in Issue 15 of Towpath Talk

 

Hope the above helps.

Blimey Bob are you on comission?

 

I use my mobile as a modem. Orange payg do a 24hr add-on which provides unlimited access to the internet (through gprs) for one of your english pounds. I think web and walk is cheaper? but someone else can tell you that (and me, though £30 per month for unlimited access is a pretty good deal).

[Bobphilips]

Blimey Bob are you on comission?

 

Wish I was. As I work with the internet I do have a slight interest in this subject... sad I know. Remembered that a few months ago they ran a piece on a pricey but good bit of kit... quick look at the back issues and bingo.. just not the jackpot!

[carlt]

Wish I was. As I work with the internet I do have a slight interest in this subject... sad I know. Remembered that a few months ago they ran a piece on a pricey but good bit of kit... quick look at the back issues and bingo.. just not the jackpot!

Does the system tell you which ones are ok to use though? I seem to remember someone on here saying they leave their wireless broadband partially unprotected in order to try and create a nationwide 'web' of free internet access for all (though I can't see that working if he's paying for his). Just think, if we hadn't all deleted the ads as soon as we logged on, we might still have freeserve.

 

The comission joke was about TT btw

[nbtafelberg]

We use a Vodafone 3G card with a Linksys Router you drop the 3G card into the Router its brilliant. Then the whole boat is Wireless allbeit slightly slow

[Yamanx]

I'm sure there are other threads on this subject but as its all in a state of flux at the moment this is my experience.

 

I dont live on my boat and only use it for holidays etc. So I didnt want a contract. For those that live on board the best option is probably broad band over 3g with a data card and contract.

 

However the providers dont really know which way to go at the moment and if you try and use PAYG 3g you will pay Mega bucks for mega bytes. I used to use a Nokia D211 data card in my laptop, you just put your GPRS sim card in it (out of your phone) and away but I'm with Vodaphone and they have changed the way they charge for data and it no longer works.

 

So I bought a bluetooth dongle from Ebay for about three quid, then conect to the Internet via the phone and GPRS, you could use a cable from phone to laptop if your phone doesnt have bluetooth. You will need GRPS enabled, which costs nothing but you may need your phone provider to activate it. Works perfect, if a little slow, but the amount of time I use the internet on the cut is minimal, mostly I use the listen again feature on the BBC site, but not much else, and its fine for that. Cost is still an issue but its PAYG and its probably the cheapest way to do it.

[Bobphilips]

Does the system tell you which ones are ok to use though? I seem to remember someone on here saying they leave their wireless broadband partially unprotected in order to try and create a nationwide 'web' of free internet access for all (though I can't see that working if he's paying for his). Just think, if we hadn't all deleted the ads as soon as we logged on, we might still have freeserve.

 

Only the name assigned to the wireless network will tell you if you are welcome to hop onboard, so to say. Something like SpilsbyFREENet as a network name my give a hint. Where as MINE_GET_YOUR_THEIVING_MITTS_OFF might indicate some hostility.

 

In all honesty if the network has a family name on it it is probably a private household who have not bothered to encrypt (protect) their private wireless network, or do not know how to. Hence, it would be polite to ignore them and not steal their 'bandwidth'.

 

As for commission from TT... again I wish... just a reader and must admit I do like it. Haven't really had a chance to read the other magazines and newspapers as yet. Plus I like a FREE read.

[honey ryder]

I use a tmobile data card on my laptop, the contract is £29 a month for unlimited useage on any service 3g, hsdpa, gprs etc.

 

so far its been pretty flippin good.

the card download settings compress some of the images a bit and they come though a bit compressed looking, such as the google graphic, but i dont care when its the net.

ive been able to hook up to a peer to peer file sharing network and upload/download music...

 

i can also collect my pop mail, although i have to send through the tmobile server it appears the other end as though it came from my normal account.

 

if i wanted to use skype then that would cost £44 a month on the contract.

[Richard Fairhurst]

As for commission from TT... again I wish... just a reader and must admit I do like it. Haven't really had a chance to read the other magazines and newspapers as yet. Plus I like a FREE read.

Though your avatar is the same as that of Ratty, the Towpath Talk forum admin, and you are from the same part of the world!

 

(not that I mind)

 

If I may be allowed a little plug of my own, there's an article on connecting to the Internet in the forthcoming (May) WW.

 

cheers

Richard

[Derek Porteous]

If you have BT Broadband at home, for an additional £5 a month you can subscribe to BT Openzone. This enables you to WiFi from hotspots when you are out cruising. Not always convenient I know, but it does give you an excuse (if you need you) to go down the pub. There is generally at least one in most towns (as well as all McDonalds, but that isn't quite such a good idea) which is a hotspot. I did this last summer when we were cruising for 5 months. I could get WiFi access at least three or four times each week.

[chris w]

Obviously, it is naughty to connect to a private network but you should be able to see a reasonable number of networks that are available for use.

 

Piggy-backing on to a private unencrypted network is not just "naughty" it's also illegal and there have been successful prosecutions. It may be dumb of the wireless owner to leave it unencrypted but when you hit "connect" without permission you are breaking the law.

 

Chris

Edited April 4, 2007 by chris w

[Adam]

Piggy-backing on to a private unencrypted network is not just "naughty" it's also illegal and there have been succesful prosecutions. It may be dumb of the wireless owner to leave it unencrypted but when you hit "connect" without permission you are breaking the law.

 

Chris

 

 

would they find out and can they tho??

not that im trying anyting illegal just a thught

[chris w]

would they find out and can they tho??

not that im trying anyting illegal just a thught

 

Yes, it is possible to know who's on your network (legally and/or illegally) in terms of what is known as the "MAC" address (nothing to do with Mac computers) which is unique to every PC/laptop.

 

Chris

[fuzzyduck]

Yes, it is possible to know who's on your network (legally and/or illegally) in terms of what is known as the "MAC" address (nothing to do with Mac computers) which is unique to every PC/laptop.

 

Chris

 

Which can be spoofed.

[warlock]

Blimey Bob are you on comission?

 

I use my mobile as a modem. Orange payg do a 24hr add-on which provides unlimited access to the internet (through gprs) for one of your english pounds. I think web and walk is cheaper? but someone else can tell you that (and me, though £30 per month for unlimited access is a pretty good deal).

Any chance of a link Carl, can't see it on their website..or do I have to go into a shop? I won't use the web much on the boat but it would be nice for an emergency.

Warlock

[Trafalgar Marine]

If you are going to use a wireless router you should remember to change the password or someone could simply log on with the factory defaults and hijack your network (resetting WEP codes etc).

 

e.g D-Link router

 

type 192.168.0.1. into your web browser

log on with factory default, in this case;

username=admin

password left blank

 

you should then see an option for changing the password. Pretty sure you can't change the username which is a bit silly (two levels of security are usually better than one).

 

I stopped hacking at school after finding some homosexual pornography on a friends computer