Loafer Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 You do know the Lister CRK3 is the same engine don't you? Not all those were derated though. Some debate about the thermostat let off temp being different. I chose the expensive Beta one in the end... Yes, I had heard that. Google, here I come... Could you tell me where the thermostat IS, Bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD3Bill Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Good point. I'll bet there's no way of finding out without buying a cheapo and it not fitting. Hmmm... I found out, I fitted one, it fits, okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafer Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I found out, I fitted one, it fits, okay? I didn't spot that post until I posted mine, sorry. Noted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD3Bill Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) The thermostat is in a housing at the front/top with three or four? screws securing the cover, which has a waterpipe to it. Sorry hard to explain ! Edited December 2, 2015 by BD3Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafer Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 The thermostat is in a housing at the front/top with three screws securing the cover, which has a waterpipe to it. Sorry hard to explain ! I'll have a poke round. Thanks Bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD3Bill Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I'll have a poke round. Thanks Bill! Pleasure to be of help, you'll want a new gasket for the thermostat housing, you knew that :0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafer Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Pleasure to be of help, you'll want a new gasket for the thermostat housing, you knew that :0) Yep ta, but I have no plans for removing it. I just didn't think it had one, but would like to know where it is in case the b^gger sticks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Beta fitted two different air filters to this engine, one cheap and one expensive, mine is the expensive one, Found it much cheaper on the net. This was my conversation with Beta Hi Neal I thought you may have been off. Needless to say mine is the £81 model, so as I have just brought it back to the boat after taken it home to clean and its in good condition I think it will have to last a bit longer. Thanks for getting back. Brian > Hello Brian, > > Sorry for the delay, I have been away for a week. > > There are two air filter possibilities for the BD3. One has a single wing nut which releases the end plate and the filter in one unit. > The other has a triangular moulded grip on the nut to release the end cap f ollowed by a wing nut to release the filter. > They will carry the part No's 382-07898 or 757-15230 respectively. > The first one costs approx. £81.-- and the later model approx. £32.-- > > Please let me know what you need and I will get it for you. Edited December 2, 2015 by ditchcrawler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Beta fitted two different air filters to this engine, one cheap and one expensive, mine is the expensive one, Found it much cheaper on the net. This was my conversation with Beta Hi Neal I thought you may have been off. Needless to say mine is the £81 model, so as I have just brought it back to the boat after taken it home to clean and its in good condition I think it will have to last a bit longer. Thanks for getting back. Brian > Hello Brian, > > Sorry for the delay, I have been away for a week. > > There are two air filter possibilities for the BD3. One has a single wing nut which releases the end plate and the filter in one unit. > The other has a triangular moulded grip on the nut to release the end cap f ollowed by a wing nut to release the filter. > They will carry the part No's 382-07898 or 757-15230 respectively. > The first one costs approx. £81.-- and the later model approx. £32.-- > > Please let me know what you need and I will get it for you. This si the £81 one for a quarter of the price http://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/Filters-Air/Cartridge/Lid/FBW-PA3447 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafer Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Beta fitted two different air filters to this engine, one cheap and one expensive, mine is the expensive one, Found it much cheaper on the net. This was my conversation with Beta Hi Neal I thought you may have been off. Needless to say mine is the £81 model, so as I have just brought it back to the boat after taken it home to clean and its in good condition I think it will have to last a bit longer. Thanks for getting back. Brian > Hello Brian, > > Sorry for the delay, I have been away for a week. > > There are two air filter possibilities for the BD3. One has a single wing nut which releases the end plate and the filter in one unit. > The other has a triangular moulded grip on the nut to release the end cap f ollowed by a wing nut to release the filter. > They will carry the part No's 382-07898 or 757-15230 respectively. > The first one costs approx. £81.-- and the later model approx. £32.-- > > Please let me know what you need and I will get it for you. Ah mine's the cheap one from that description. Ta DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Bd3 is not a cork one. Got my spare rocker gasket from beta. Not sure how you would turn the engine over without hand start and decompressor though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafer Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Bd3 is not a cork one. Got my spare rocker gasket from beta. Not sure how you would turn the engine over without hand start and decompressor though A very good point. Er, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD3Bill Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I'm sure they did hand start as an "optional extra"( PMSL), with a lethal chain & sprocket arrangement to an auto decompressor (valve lifter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafer Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I'm sure they did hand start as an "optional extra"( PMSL), with a lethal chain & sprocket arrangement to an auto decompressor (valve lifter) Hmmm. I'm quite happy not to have one of those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Bd3 is not a cork one. Got my spare rocker gasket from beta. Not sure how you would turn the engine over without hand start and decompressor though I have a big pulley on the front of my engine. with the engine stop out I can turn it over VERY slowly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafer Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I have a big pulley on the front of my engine. with the engine stop out I can turn it over VERY slowly Oh God. I don't have a decompressor lever. Or do I? There's an unused stop thing on the HP fuel pump (i.e. not the lift pump) but I think that just shuts off fuel. Great help, chaps. Many thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Oh God. I don't have a decompressor lever. Or do I? There's an unused stop thing on the HP fuel pump (i.e. not the lift pump) but I think that just shuts off fuel. Great help, chaps. Many thanks. No decompressors that is why its slowly, the engine stop is so it doesn't start and take my hand off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafer Posted December 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 No decompressors that is why its slowly, the engine stop is so it doesn't start and take my hand off. Ah see. I might try that then. Is that the lever near to the throttle lever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Ah see. I might try that then. Is that the lever near to the throttle lever? Yes mine has a cable attached to stop the engine. I pull a cable to stop the engine not press a button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 You should be able to turn the engine over by hand using the big pulley on the front. The stop lever is good advice! The main resistance to turning by hand should be the compression, in fact by noting how much of a struggle it is you are doing an approximate compression test! Turn the engine till it gets really hard then rock it back and forward a little bit for a short while, the compression will leak away, then you can turn it further! Check that all three cylinders put up a similar fight. .................Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham.m Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Don't forget the grease nipples on the constant velocity joints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Don't forget the grease nipples on the constant velocity joints They are much more likely to be conventional "Hookes" joints which are not constant velocity! (pedant note As long as there are an even number they should cancel out so that both ends turn at the same (instantaneous) velocity but the shaft itself accelerates and decelerates! (at twice rotational frequency I think)) ..............Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham.m Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 They are much more likely to be conventional "Hookes" joints which are not constant velocity! (pedant note As long as there are an even number they should cancel out so that both ends turn at the same (instantaneous) velocity but the shaft itself accelerates and decelerates! (at twice rotational frequency I think)) ..............Dave lol Haven't the foggiest lol No my area, except to grease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmr Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 lol Haven't the foggiest lol No my area, except to grease Look up the Wikipedia articles on Hookes (universal) joints and constant velocity joints, nice animations! ...............Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafer Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Yes mine has a cable attached to stop the engine. I pull a cable to stop the engine not press a button. Ah. I have a Murphy valve and a switch. The lever on the fuel pump assembly isn't connected to anything. I'm therefore of the opinion that it will be OK just switching off the Murphy valve, which is it's normal pre-start condition. You should be able to turn the engine over by hand using the big pulley on the front. The stop lever is good advice! The main resistance to turning by hand should be the compression, in fact by noting how much of a struggle it is you are doing an approximate compression test! Turn the engine till it gets really hard then rock it back and forward a little bit for a short while, the compression will leak away, then you can turn it further! Check that all three cylinders put up a similar fight. .................Dave Got all that dmr, many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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