GlenBlk Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Can anyone give me an idea of the cost of over plating a 58foot narrowboat in the North of England? Is it billed at per foot for example? Edited October 28, 2013 by GlenBlk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBBS Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Bottom & sides including counter etc £140/ foot just sides £70/ foot Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Tee Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 This should give you an idea - no association with them, other than owning a boat they built years ago http://www.stokeboats.co.uk/services/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlenBlk Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Thanks for the replies. So am I right in thinking that's about 10k bottom and sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilR Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Thanks for the replies. So am I right in thinking that's about 10k bottom and sides? Maybe, but you still haven't stated how long the boat in question is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlenBlk Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Maybe, but you still haven't stated how long the boat in question is Oh dear silly me! Its 58 foot and not been out for 8 years and was around 5mm then and the nearest dry dock is a days sail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Oh dear silly me! Its 58 foot and not been out for 8 years and was around 5mm then and the nearest dry dock is a days sail. It is a narrowboat - - not a widebeam or a Dutch barge, (isn't it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalslandia Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 How is the landskape in north england? if there is a lot of hills and trees it will be more expensive to over plate. Holland is cheeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddingtonBear Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Springers are dearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomsberry Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 What about plate thickness ? I assume this must be a factor in pricing.My narrowboat has been overplated with 5mm plate, why didn't they use 6mm ? Surely the extra 6mm isn't that much expense and gives another mill on the side ?Also I have seen overplating with 4mm advertised. As insurers use 4mm as the minimum thickness surely this is pretty short sighted as it won't be too long before the boat is uninsurable and will require replating again ?Or am I missing something ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlenBlk Posted October 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) What about plate thickness ? I assume this must be a factor in pricing. My narrowboat has been overplated with 5mm plate, why didn't they use 6mm ? Surely the extra 6mm isn't that much expense and gives another mill on the side ? Also I have seen overplating with 4mm advertised. As insurers use 4mm as the minimum thickness surely this is pretty short sighted as it won't be too long before the boat is uninsurable and will require replating again ? Or am I missing something ? I'M not being funny but why didn't you tell them what thickness you wanted rather than leaving it up to them? I am not an expert but weight comes into play too as by plating you are adding extra weight so maybe that extra 1mm amounts to ex amount of weight making the boat sit lower in the water. I believe 4mm is the minimum for fully comp insurance any thinner you can only insure it for fire and theft so if it sinks your are not covered but then I would imagine its easier to sink a 10mm plastic boat than a 3mm steel boat on collision unless there is an area of weakness on a steel hull. If its a Springer they use thinner plate as its easier to bend so I'M told. It is a narrowboat - - not a widebeam or a Dutch barge, (isn't it?) Narrowboat. Edited October 28, 2013 by GlenBlk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomsberry Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'M not being funny but why didn't you tell them what thickness you wanted rather than leaving it up to them? I am not an expert but weight comes into play too as by plating you are adding extra weight so maybe that extra 1mm amounts to ex amount of weight making the boat sit lower in the water. I believe 4mm is the minimum for fully comp insurance any thinner you can only insure it for fire and theft so if it sinks your are not covered but then I would imagine its easier to sink a 10mm plastic boat than a 3mm steel boat on collision unless there is an area of weakness on a steel hull. If its a Springer they use thinner plate as its easier to bend so I'M told. Narrowboat. It had alreadybeen replated when I bought the boat so didn'\t have the choice. I'm still curious about the use of gettting a boat replated by 4mm plate when this is supposed to be the minimum thickness for insurance. Surely you want a bit extra to give you a bit of leeway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlenBlk Posted October 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 It had alreadybeen replated when I bought the boat so didn'\t have the choice. I'm still curious about the use of gettting a boat replated by 4mm plate when this is supposed to be the minimum thickness for insurance. Surely you want a bit extra to give you a bit of leeway. Ahh right I see what you mean now. Yes you are right in what you say but perhaps there was a reason for it like weight and or being able to bend the steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloomsberry Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Ahh right I see what you mean now. Yes you are right in what you say but perhaps there was a reason for it like weight and or being able to bend the steel. Forgot to mention it's only 5mm on the sides whereas the 'Bendy' bits at the bow and stern are in 6mm which is a bit bizzarre. Maybe they ran out of 6mm and used 5mm instead ? Or ran out of cash to use 6mm all rouind ? I think your theory sounds the most likely that it was done in 5mm to lesson the weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake_crew Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Maybe the 5mm plate was hard (ie not bendable), whereas the 6mm was soft or half-hard. When you buy steel you specify the temper you want. Cue comedians :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onionbargee Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Maybe the 5mm plate was hard (ie not bendable), whereas the 6mm was soft or half-hard. When you buy steel you specify the temper you want. Cue comedians :- Do you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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