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[WotEver]

That's the trouble with you electrical guys, you really struggle when faced with something really complicated like a union fitting.

Roger

 

What kind of voltage drop would you have over a 1 1/2" long union fitting?

[stuart]

Not sure if this would be covered under the BSS as its an oil pipe, but will your new pipe need to be BS standard marked fuel hose ?

[Albion]

 

What kind of voltage drop would you have over a 1 1/2" long union fitting?

 

About 1 kilohm I would think

 

 

Not sure if this would be covered under the BSS as its an oil pipe, but will your new pipe need to be BS standard marked fuel hose ?

 

No, this is only the sump pump pipe, it won't come under the BSS.

Roger

[LoneWolf]

It is fixed and appears to be leak free but i only ran the engine for half an hour

 

New hose (twice the length) & clips & more advice on fitting it provided by the good people of Harbrook Engineering in Burland

 

it took me 3 hours (yes THREE HOURS) to tighten the new jubilee clip today due to restricted access meaning i could only get one hand in at a time & the clip kept slipping round at first - then i had to figure out a new technique & position to get enough leverage to tighten it properly at the end but i persisted and only swore a couple of times. I am quite bruised from all the reaching & leaning on the metal compartment edge but feeling quite pleased with myself.

 

thanks for all your advice especially Albion, your detailed explanation was really useful.

[ditchcrawler]

It is fixed and appears to be leak free but i only ran the engine for half an hour

 

New hose (twice the length) & clips & more advice on fitting it provided by the good people of Harbrook Engineering in Burland

 

it took me 3 hours (yes THREE HOURS) to tighten the new jubilee clip today due to restricted access meaning i could only get one hand in at a time & the clip kept slipping round at first - then i had to figure out a new technique & position to get enough leverage to tighten it properly at the end but i persisted and only swore a couple of times. I am quite bruised from all the reaching & leaning on the metal compartment edge but feeling quite pleased with myself.

 

thanks for all your advice especially Albion, your detailed explanation was really useful.

So you didn't need to break the union after all?

[Chalky]

 

What kind of voltage drop would you have over a 1 1/2" long union fitting?

Ah - that'll be microwave engineering. No idea.

[LoneWolf]

So you didn't need to break the union after all?

 

I am not Willie Walsh.

 

Actually I dont know what that means. If it means turn the nut & get the whole pipe plus nozzle fitting off then no i didnt. It would have been easier to do up the jubilee clip if i had (and the Harbrooks guy was surprised didn't bring the whole thing in) but that nut wasn't for turning. Once Albion explained what it looked like under the hose & what the different bits were for I realised i didnt need to. It was the hose that had cracked i think.

 

It took 2 hrs to remove the clip & old hose as well

[Albion]

It is fixed and appears to be leak free but i only ran the engine for half an hour

 

New hose (twice the length) & clips & more advice on fitting it provided by the good people of Harbrook Engineering in Burland

 

it took me 3 hours (yes THREE HOURS) to tighten the new jubilee clip today due to restricted access meaning i could only get one hand in at a time & the clip kept slipping round at first - then i had to figure out a new technique & position to get enough leverage to tighten it properly at the end but i persisted and only swore a couple of times. I am quite bruised from all the reaching & leaning on the metal compartment edge but feeling quite pleased with myself.

 

thanks for all your advice especially Albion, your detailed explanation was really useful.

 

Yep, with a screwdriver and one-handed access I can understand the frustration. Had you had a Jubilee driver (a flexible screwdriver with a small socket firmly attached) the job would have been much simpler. Unfortunately there are two different sizes of hex heads (6 and 7mm) on differing makes of 'Jubilee'(although that is a trade mark it is a generic name like a Hoover). See: Clip driver

 

 

I am not Willie Walsh.

 

Actually I dont know what that means. If it means turn the nut & get the whole pipe plus nozzle fitting off then no i didnt. It would have been easier to do up the jubilee clip if i had (and the Harbrooks guy was surprised didn't bring the whole thing in) but that nut wasn't for turning. Once Albion explained what it looked like under the hose & what the different bits were for I realised i didnt need to. It was the hose that had cracked i think.

 

It took 2 hrs to remove the clip & old hose as well

 

Cracking (or breaking) the union means breaking that first tightness (often goes with a crack) so that you can continue unscrewing the whole thing.

 

So, 5 hours to do the whole job without travelling time included; but I dare bet that although bruised and battered you've a hell of a sense of achievement. Well done.

Roger

Edited March 25, 2011 by Albion

[LoneWolf]

Yep, with a screwdriver and one-handed access I can understand the frustration. Had you had a Jubilee driver (a flexible screwdriver with a small socket firmly attached) the job would have been much simpler. Unfortunately there are two different sizes of hex heads (6 and 7mm) on differing makes of 'Jubilee'(although that is a trade mark it is a generic name like a Hoover). See: Clip driver

 

 

 

 

Cracking (or breaking) the union means breaking that first tightness (often goes with a crack) so that you can continue unscrewing the whole thing.

 

So, 5 hours to do the whole job without travelling time included; but I dare bet that although bruised and battered you've a hell of a sense of achievement. Well done.

Roger

 

 

Oh wow look at them specialist tools - i'm going to get one if i ever have to do it again. I used a big lump of blu tack to stop it slipping to begin with and lots of tiny weak turns (which was all i could manage with the awkward grip). Once it was firm enough to keep the screwdriver in the slot by pushing i could shift positions for a better grip. But i could only ever do tiny fractions of a turn before i had to adjust grip (and drop the screwdriver)

 

well, there was another hour yesterday where i tried to do it with the jubilee clip the other way round... I'll get the hang of it eventually.

I am very pleased i didnt give up & fixed it myself though. Thanks again for the help

[ditchcrawler]

Oh wow look at them specialist tools - i'm going to get one if i ever have to do it again. I used a big lump of blu tack to stop it slipping to begin with and lots of tiny weak turns (which was all i could manage with the awkward grip). Once it was firm enough to keep the screwdriver in the slot by pushing i could shift positions for a better grip. But i could only ever do tiny fractions of a turn before i had to adjust grip (and drop the screwdriver)

 

well, there was another hour yesterday where i tried to do it with the jubilee clip the other way round... I'll get the hang of it eventually.

I am very pleased i didnt give up & fixed it myself though. Thanks again for the help

Well done, you normally end up with the end of the screwdriver blade going through the thumb of the left hand (assuming you are right handed)

You can also put a small socket spanner (6/7mm on a 1/4" ratchet driver and get difficult ones that way.