new pontoons at albert dock

[gaggle]

BW have agreed to spend £500,000 on 600 metre,s of new pontoons at the albert and salthouse docks in time for the liverpool boat show 2011.

the pontoons will be a permanent fixtures which means over 200 boats can moor up , the deal is part of bw sponsorship of the boat show event which will see multi million pound vessels exhibited.

[Cosy Toes]

Wow! Thats good news.

My question is how are they going to fill them up with boats with the current up and down locks proceedure??? and wont they run out of water again??

I am looking forward to the whole event but wont be taking my boat as I will be at work. I will visit regularly and pop in for coffees x

[cotswoldsman]

Wow! Thats good news.

My question is how are they going to fill them up with boats with the current up and down locks proceedure??? and wont they run out of water again??

I am looking forward to the whole event but wont be taking my boat as I will be at work. I will visit regularly and pop in for coffees x

 

Umm 200 boats!! with 14 day moorings that is 100 per week up and 100 per week down so 28 boats per day and under the present system 3 days up and 3 days down with one day to catch up on any days when it all goes wrong that is 33 boats a day. Think someone at BW needs to look at the figures again, as most boats will most probably only want to stay 7 days. That would be 66 boats a day

[gaggle]

Full details are in the liverpool echo , the new pontoons it says are extra bouyant and longer to allow multi million pound boats to be moored at the show, the pontoons will be permenant fixtures.

[Cosy Toes]

Watch that space!!

 

Next thing they will be applying for planning permission for permanant residency moorings and charge a premium.

We said that to each other when we were moored there last summer.

 

I will still enjoy the event.

 

Sue

[TheWilk]

Watch that space!

 

Next thing they will be applying for planning permission for permanant residency moorings and charge a premium.

 

 

We can dream...!

[Cosy Toes]

Yeah but they will charge a stack!!

[PhilR]

Umm 200 boats!! with 14 day moorings that is 100 per week up and 100 per week down so 28 boats per day and under the present system 3 days up and 3 days down with one day to catch up on any days when it all goes wrong that is 33 boats a day. Think someone at BW needs to look at the figures again, as most boats will most probably only want to stay 7 days. That would be 66 boats a day

 

 

In the current economic climate, it seems crazy to me that BW should think of spending this kind of money on new projects like this. Especially with the current limit on *escorted passage* at the western end of the L & L.

 

Who will want a 14 day mooring? I am sure it would appeal to CC'ers if moorings will be free, but I suspect this will not be the case.

 

IMHO, the money would be better spent on maintaining what we already have and improving water supply generally around the system + more 24/48 hour visitor moorings.

[cotswoldsman]

In the current economic climate, it seems crazy to me that BW should think of spending this kind of money on new projects like this. Especially with the current limit on *escorted passage* at the western end of the L & L.

 

Who will want a 14 day mooring? I am sure it would appeal to CC'ers if moorings will be free, but I suspect this will not be the case.

 

IMHO, the money would be better spent on maintaining what we already have and improving water supply generally around the system + more 24/48 hour visitor moorings.

 

I do agree that it seems a bit of a waste of money. Not quite sure why 14 days should appeal more to CCers I spent 7 days there last year and that was plenty of time to see all the great sights and museums.

Have no problem with more 48 hour moorings thing 24 hour moorings are a bit pointless, as it is impossible for BW to monitor most of the 24/48 hour moorings at present it would involve employing loads more wardens to make them effective.

[sueb]

More 24/48 moorings aren't needed. More 14 day moorings are required. 48hrs is useless if you are weekending, maybe this could be a reason some overstay, although none of them are monitored.

Who is going to use these moorings after the show? We were part of a convoy of 29 boats using the crossing. The BW organisation was bad and there were still empty mooings.

Sue

[gaggle]

How many pirates does it take to fill Liverpool's Albert Dock? An arrrrrghful lot!

 

Thousands of swashbucklers are needed on Sunday 18th July when the 2nd International Mersey Pirate Muster attempts to break the Guinness World Record for largest gathering of pirates in one place.

 

The record (yes, it is a real one) was set at Brixham earlier this year, when 1,744 barnaclebacks and scurvydogs descended on the town.

 

But, just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water, the record was scuppered only a few weeks later when a massive 2,600 souls squeezed into the Northern California Pirate Festival.

 

So before that American Ink dries in the ship's log, a call to arms is being issued to all available pirates - young and old - to join our own Mersey Pirate Navy and reclaim the record, for our own noble maritime city.

 

The world record attempt has the backing of Liverpool’s seaworthy Lord Mayor Hazel Williams, who said: "Liverpool is a proud maritime city – a UNESCO Maritime and Mercantile City no less - and few ports are a patch on us.

 

"With a fair wind I’m sure we can muster enough pirates of all ages to capture this swashbuckling claim to fame and sail right into the Guinness Book of Records.

 

"And there’ll be no better way to have fun while raising funds for such a worthy cause this side of the Atlantic this year."

 

To take part you must follow these six simple steps:

- Wear a pirate hat or bandana

- Wear an eye patch

- Carry a cutlass, flag or parrot

- Wear a piratey shirt or T shirt

- Wear rolled up or raggedy piratey trousers

- TURN UP!

 

This memorable event will be taking place from 1.45 pm just in front of the Echo Big Wheel. Register for a purple eye patch for 50p and support Liverpool Unites at the same time.

 

But if you don't want to dress up, you'll still be warrghmly welcomed down at the dock, as there is plenty to see and do.

 

The event has been organised by BeSpoken Storytelling's Cathy Roberts and Liverpool Front House's Paul Miller.

 

Cathy Roberts said: "This is only the second Mersey Pirate Muster, but we're really proud that so many local businesses and community organisations have climbed on board with us.

 

"When we heard there was a pirate gathering world record, we couldn't resist the challenge. Hopefully we will muster enough people to clinch it, but either way it will be a fabulous fun day out."

 

The record attempt is just one of the highlights of this year's Mersey Pirate Muster, visiting Liverpool's On The Waterfront festival, from July 16th to 18th, which will launch on Friday night at 8.30pm with a spectacular pyrotechnic tribute to the Picasso exhibition at Tate Liverpool in the Albert Dock.

 

On The Waterfront, commissioned by Liverpool City Council and delivered by Walk the Plank has a second instalment on August 6-8, but the July edition will exclusively feature a flotilla of Tall Ships, aerobatic displays, a Feel Good Fair and a sculpture made from 60 tonnes of sand as well as many other maritime malarkeys.

 

As well as the Pirate World Record attempt there’s also a chance to win real life hidden treasure – all you have to do is Pick up a copy of Mysterious MacNamara's Map around the docks.

 

On Saturday you should also cover your ears for the spectacular Battle of Canning Dock, with tall ships, cannons, and enough muskets to wake old Davy Jones himself.

 

But never fear landlubbers, the only thing these pirates will capture is your imagination.

 

EDIT TO ADD- copied and pasted from a bootle site.

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Edited July 13, 2010 by gaggle

[Naughty Cal]

Umm 200 boats!! with 14 day moorings that is 100 per week up and 100 per week down so 28 boats per day and under the present system 3 days up and 3 days down with one day to catch up on any days when it all goes wrong that is 33 boats a day. Think someone at BW needs to look at the figures again, as most boats will most probably only want to stay 7 days. That would be 66 boats a day

 

I dont think the multi million pound vessels to be exhibited will be going the canal route

[mayalld]

I dont think the multi million pound vessels to be exhibited will be

 

... still there by the morning.

 

[reaches for bag of popcorn for the ineviatable howls of protest about stereotyping that are bound to flood in from stereotypical Scousers]

[cotswoldsman]

I dont think the multi million pound vessels to be exhibited will be going the canal route

 

i am sure they won't. Just happen to think that spending £500,000 in the present time on a show that lasts 10 days is a not great investment as it would appear to have no long term benefit.

Edited July 13, 2010 by cotswoldsman

[Naughty Cal]

... still there by the morning.

 

[reaches for bag of popcorn for the ineviatable howls of protest about stereotyping that are bound to flood in from stereotypical Scousers]

 

[gaggle]

i am sure they won't. Just happen to think that spending £500,000 in the present time on a show that lasts 10 days is a not great investment as it would appear to have no long term benefit.

 

The docks , the link , bw and the waterways in general will no doubt get massive media exposure during the event and i should imagine publicity such as that would cost more than the £500,000.

It could potentially bring in £40 m each year it takes place so it is not just a 10 day event , the south docks have proved to be enjoyable to all the boaters i have spoken to going in and out and this investment can surely only further improve on what we have.

[PhilR]

The docks , the link , bw and the waterways in general will no doubt get massive media exposure during the event and i should imagine publicity such as that would cost more than the £500,000.

It could potentially bring in £40 m each year it takes place so it is not just a 10 day event , the south docks have proved to be enjoyable to all the boaters i have spoken to going in and out and this investment can surely only further improve on what we have.

 

 

I'd be interested to know who is suggesting a £40m figure and how much of that would go to BW.

[mayalld]

I'd be interested to know who is suggesting a £40m figure and how much of that would go to BW.

 

Well, naturally the £40m figure will be suggested by consultants whose extravagant claims for how much a project will bring in are rivalled only by the extravagant fees they charge.

 

Of course, none of it will go to BW. Perish the thought that the people who are in line to reap the benefit of the £40m that will never appear should stump up the half a million that needs spending.

[gaggle]

I'd be interested to know who is suggesting a £40m figure and how much of that would go to BW.

 

 

bob mckenzie who is head of the marine industry events give the figure , its the potential value to liverpool .

Its not like bw are getting nothing for the money , the pontoons must cost a few bob and they remain bw property and i can take my boat there in a few hours and make use of them so i am not going to complain.

Some very nice boats down there now for the pirate weekend.

[cotswoldsman]

The docks , the link , bw and the waterways in general will no doubt get massive media exposure during the event and i should imagine publicity such as that would cost more than the £500,000.

It could potentially bring in £40 m each year it takes place so it is not just a 10 day event , the south docks have proved to be enjoyable to all the boaters i have spoken to going in and out and this investment can surely only further improve on what we have.

 

I went to down the Link last year and do no disagree with you that the facilities are great and the location fantastic. When I was there last year for seven days during that period the maximum boats in Salthouse was four. I think there are enough pontoons at present for about 90 boats I feel that is plenty.

I think that £40 million extra income for Liverpool will be great I again just question if during these hard times when certain parts of the system require some serious investment whether £500,000 is the best use of BW's limited funds, that I feel sure will be cut even further next year. This money could provide employment for about 25 people for at least one year.

[mayalld]

bob mckenzie who is head of the marine industry events give the figure , its the potential value to liverpool .

Its not like bw are getting nothing for the money , the pontoons must cost a few bob and they remain bw property and i can take my boat there in a few hours and make use of them so i am not going to complain.

Some very nice boats down there now for the pirate weekend.

 

The simple fact is that BW is strapped for cash, and if it has a spare half million floating around, there are many ways in which it could be spent that would benefit a lot more boaters than this project.

 

If spending half a million on this is going to bring 40 milion into Liverpool, then let Liverpool Council invest the money.

[cotswoldsman]

The simple fact is that BW is strapped for cash, and if it has a spare half million floating around, there are many ways in which it could be spent that would benefit a lot more boaters than this project.

 

If spending half a million on this is going to bring 40 milion into Liverpool, then let Liverpool Council invest the money.

 

David we are going to have stop this agreeing!!!!

[mayalld]

David we are going to have stop this agreeing!!!!

 

I will try to be disagreeable later.

[gaggle]

I went to down the Link last year and do no disagree with you that the facilities are great and the location fantastic. When I was there last year for seven days during that period the maximum boats in Salthouse was four. I think there are enough pontoons at present for about 90 boats I feel that is plenty.

I think that £40 million extra income for Liverpool will be great I again just question if during these hard times when certain parts of the system require some serious investment whether £500,000 is the best use of BW's limited funds, that I feel sure will be cut even further next year. This money could provide employment for about 25 people for at least one year.

 

Or yearly bonus payments for about six directors.

[gaggle]

The simple fact is that BW is strapped for cash, and if it has a spare half million floating around, there are many ways in which it could be spent that would benefit a lot more boaters than this project.

 

If spending half a million on this is going to bring 40 milion into Liverpool, then let Liverpool Council invest the money.

 

 

Maybe they are investing some money , i suppose such an event will need more than just a few more pontoons , a lot of negative comments came when they announced the building of the link even though it cost little to licence payers and the link is proving that it can attract visitors.

When you look at the link and the docks that bw got for next to nothing £500,000 is not much , we just need BW to shape up and make the visit to the link easier , i am sure the berths could be filled , i for one would be happy to go and moor down there once a month but all the booking palavar prevents this.