Narrowboat from South Ferriby lock questions

[Duncan 0]

Looking to bring a Narrowboat from the river Ancholme up to Keadby, and then on to Torksey.

Many questions:

What's the best time to leave the lock at South Ferriby?

South or North of Read's Island? 

Roughly how long to get to Keadby?

Is there a floating pontoon in the Trent at Keadby to moor up to for the night, or is it best to pass through the lock and wait until the next day?

How long to transit from Keadby to Torksey? Can this be done in one leg or is it best to stop at West Stockwith? 

Any other advice and pitfalls to avoid would be gratefully accepted.

Cheers and TIA

Dunk

Edited June 19, 2020 by Duncan
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[Scholar Gypsy 338]

There's no pontoon at Keadby. You can easily go from there to Torksey in one hop, but the Chesterfield is lovely & well worth a visit.

 

You may find this chart helpful to work out the tides.  If you leave Keadby as soon as there is enough water over the cill you should get to Torksey before it starts to ebb. Unless you are very slow.

And this is a helpful website. https://www.chesterfield-canal-trust.org.uk/on-the-water/navigating-the-tidal-river-trent/

 

[Alan de Enfield 7001]

3 hours ago, Duncan said:

Any other advice and pitfalls to avoid would be gratefully accepted.

Anchor, chain and VHF radio can be useful.

[Naughty Cal 1924]

1 minute ago, Alan de Enfield said:

Anchor, chain and VHF radio can be useful.

Indeed VHF is a requirement of travel on ABP Humber waters as is a minimum of two people onboard.

 

For the current route around the island you will need to check the charts on the ABP Humber website, same goes for the current route around the island at Trent End.

 

There is no pontoon at Keadby you would have to lock up onto the canal. There is nothing much there you would be better off continuing up to West Stockwith and locking up there or doing the run to Torksey in one hit. There are pontoon in the lock cut there.

 

There is still a fair bit of commercial shipping on the lower Trent and upper Humber. You will need your VHF to know what they are doing and where they are going.

[Alan de Enfield 7001]

7 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said:

Indeed VHF is a requirement of travel on ABP Humber waters as is a minimum of two people onboard.

 

The Byelaws 

 

(Small vessel means less than 12 metres in length)

 

 

[Naughty Cal 1924]

39ft = 12m.

 

Unless it is a small narrowboat it will need two up.

[Alan de Enfield 7001]

27 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said:

39ft = 12m.

 

Unless it is a small narrowboat it will need two up.

 

Also forgot to post :

 

An anchor ready for immediate deployment is also required (when 'playing with the big boys' you have to agree to their rules)

 

Bye-Law 28

 

 

Edited June 19, 2020 by Alan de Enfield

[Mac of Cygnet 1000]

The OP doesn't sound particularly experienced.  I, and most people on here, wouldn't make that trip without someone who had done it before and knew exactly what they were doing.

 

But at least this got some answers, unlike his only other post

 

 

[Joe Bourke 65]

I've just dug out my ships log book.  We had come up the Humber from Spurn and locked in at South Ferriby and the River Ancholme for a couple of days before proceeding inland, ultimately to Nottingham.  It was July, 2013.

 

We turned North (to Port) along the bank to get around the island and onto the correct channel.

 

We locked out of S. Ferribly at 1320.  HW predicted at 1602.

Passed Apex (Trent Falls)         1415

Keadby.                                         1515

W. Stockwith.                               1638

Arrived Torksey.                           1825

 

I must emphasise that we had up to date ABP Charts, we were always navigating on a rising tide, and had depth finder, vhf, etc. As already mentioned ships may well be maneuvering at the various wharves up the Trent at that state of the tide. They weren't that day, maybe it was a little early on the tide. We were always on the relevant VHF Channels and had contacted VTS.

 

We passed some groups of narrowboats further up the Trent that had left Keadby and W.Stockwith so that confirmed to us we were right in our timings. We aren't a great deal faster than a narrowboat being heavy displacement. We have a 4ft draught.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Wide boat man 6]

Charts are only available in Hull as the channels move all the time so marinas and chandlerys do not stock charts. When we visited 20 years ago the channel had swung south of Read's Island and they where dredging 24/7 I would only go out on a neap tide and be aware of fresh flooding conditions (rain). try to get hold of a copy of the Ripon Motor Boat club chart book of the trent and ouse. Just looked and the http://www.humber.com/Estuary_Information/Marine_Information/Chart_Catalogue/Current_Humber_Charts/     The charts are on line.

Edited June 19, 2020 by Wide boat man
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[Naughty Cal 1924]

7 minutes ago, Wide boat man said:

Charts are only available in Hull as the channels move all the time so marinas and chandlerys do not stock charts. When we visited 20 years ago the channel had swung south of Read's Island and they where dredging 24/7 I would only go out on a neap tide and be aware of fresh flooding conditions (rain). try to get hold of a copy of the Ripon Motor Boat clup chart book of the trent and ouse

The latest charts are available online on the ABP Humber website.

 

http://www.humber.com/Estuary_Information/Marine_Information/Chart_Viewer/