Rayburn Oil Cooking an Domestic boat fitting

[Dev]

Hi, 

 

We are fitting a Rayburn in our boat for cooking and domestic hot water. We are trying to find out the bss stands for installing in, if we need any certain gap around it. We already are putting fire board behind it, just cant find much information on regulations for installation.

[roland elsdon]

1 minute ago, Dev said:

Hi, 

 

We are fitting a Rayburn in our boat for cooking and domestic hot water. We are trying to find out the bss stands for installing in, if we need any certain gap around it. We already are putting fire board behind it, just cant find much information on regulations for installation.

We had ours across the boat. Saved messing about as the water jacket was nearest the hull side and was coolish.

U shaped galley. No bulkhead behind.

[WotEver]

I would imagine that for BSS purposes it would be treated as a solid fuel stove, unless it's diesel powered?

[Dev]

1 hour ago, roland elsdon said:

We had ours across the boat. Saved messing about as the water jacket was nearest the hull side and was coolish.

U shaped galley. No bulkhead behind.

We are having a L shape, with the plan of it sat up against a half walk, with fire board behind. And units to the right hand side of it

9 minutes ago, WotEver said:

I would imagine that for BSS purposes it would be treated as a solid fuel stove, unless it's diesel powered?

It not a solid fueled one. It will be ran on kerosene

Edited June 10, 2020 by Dev

[David Mack]

There's probably some guidance in the manufacturer's installation instructions. Strictly that only relates to a house installation, but it is probably the best you will get.

[Dev]

7 minutes ago, David Mack said:

There's probably some guidance in the manufacturer's installation instructions. Strictly that only relates to a house installation, but it is probably the best you will get.

The only guidance in the manual is that the left hand side has enough space for the controls to be accessed. And that the right hand side can be against the kicthen units, dosnt say anything for behind, but uusually they would be against brick. Just dont want to install it and in 3 years time have to redo the kicthen, as it's getting built around it

Edited June 10, 2020 by Dev

[David Mack]

Some pictures of the installation of a similar oil-fired range on the Calbourne blog.

 http://nb-calbourne.blogspot.com/2018/03/?m=1

It crops up at various points in the blog as the fitout progresses.

[WotEver]

1 hour ago, Dev said:

It not a solid fueled one. It will be ran on kerosene

Then the only BSS Reg that I’m aware of is that it must be securely fixed down with brackets. It can’t be free-standing. 
 

I presume that it’s pretty well insulated and doesn’t get as hot as a solid fuel stove would do? As it states that it can be fitted adjacent to kitchen units then it must run pretty cool, so nowt much else required as far as I can see. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, David Mack said:

There's probably some guidance in the manufacturer's installation instructions. Strictly that only relates to a house installation, but it is probably the best you will get.

Much like you get for a stove.

 

The stove installation on our boat would have come nowhere near meeting the requirements of the one at home.

[BEngo]

The fuel pipework will need to comply with the BSS rules for diesel pipework, especially any flexible pipes, tank connections etc.

 

Regardless of BSS it should have an over temperature cut-off in the fuel line close to the cooker.

 

The flue may be an issue, since it will be much shorter than the makers expect and will produce less draw.

 

N

[Athy]

10 hours ago, David Mack said:

Some pictures of the installation of a similar oil-fired range on the Calbourne blog.

 http://nb-calbourne.blogspot.com/2018/03/?m=1

It crops up at various points in the blog as the fitout progresses.

£785 for a fully working range cooker? Wow, he got a bargain, even if it was a canary-yellow bargain.

[David Mack]

9 hours ago, The Happy Nomad said:

Much like you get for a stove.

 

The stove installation on our boat would have come nowhere near meeting the requirements of the one at home.

But since the Rayburn requirements for installation in a house aren't onerous, then a fully compliant installation in a boat shouldn't be a problem.

22 minutes ago, BEngo said:

 

The flue may be an issue, since it will be much shorter than the makers expect and will produce less draw.

May be an issue if the Rayburn has a vapourising burner, although Reflecs type stoves seem to be OK on boats. But it should be fine if it is a fan-blown pressure jet burner (although that will require a 240V a.c. power supply - presumably from an inverter).

[WotEver]

27 minutes ago, David Mack said:

But since the Rayburn requirements for installation in a house aren't onerous, then a fully compliant installation in a boat shouldn't be a problem.

Yes, that's where I was coming from too.

[roland elsdon]

The casings are insulated with rock wall type insulation, and don’t get really hot. The hot plates and water jacket are where the heat is concentrated, along with main oven. It’s a pleasant background warmth rather than fierce heat. Don’t think you will have to worry too much about insulation round it.

One of our cats worked out how to open the warming oven, and used to sleep in it.