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That's good value! Some charge that (and more) per day down here....

Try the folks at Northwich Dry Dock. If they can't do, they will know someone who can. http://www.northwichdrydock.com/contact/ P.S. I wouldn't put them in the average narrowboat marina category though.

My system has 1 rad that you can't turn off (for safety reasons), the rest are on thermo valves and get turned off in the summer. I was told recently by a marine engineer that he got called to a boat with a failed Eberspacher. It turn out to be an empty diesel tank. The owner had no idea about the need for diesel, he thought it ran on batteries because he could hear the fan running all the time.

The steerer will need the other 7 to do the "left hand down a bit....."

I'll bow to your inside knowledge.

A useful perk... At £500 per week, for me it works out at £8/ft. Then there is £1/ft for paint. That puts it at the same price as I pay for an equivalent blacking service with a credible boatyard. Good ROI for the canal society though with an annual income at c.£25000.

I think that is a standard request by any surveyor, whether it gets actioned by the vendor or broker is another matter.

I think the most recent posts above are starting to unravel the complexity that some buyers are faced with. If it makes buyers more aware, then that's a good thing.

For the sake of avoiding confusion, rather than being pedantic, for anybody reading this that is not experienced in the BSS and survey process, it is important to provide factual information. You should distinguish the role of the marine surveyor and a BSS examiner. Two different roles and two different remits. The scenario you are describing relates to a BSS examiner. If gas is involved, then you are referring to a BSS examiner that is also registered with the Gas Safe scheme. Some surveyors are also BSS examiners but it would be misleading for people think that commissioning a surveyor will include the work that you describe. The extent of the work performed by the surveyor will be described in their proposal/contract with the client before the survey starts.

Out of interest, which law are you referring to here?

What about the £200 haul out fee? I have always worked on the basis that the real cost is £200 + (6 x £50) for the first week plus some VAT (website is ambiguos). Nice dock though.

Weren't boats made from wood before steel became the norm? Has nobody told the painter?

I'm sure you appreciate that you will need to consider the terms of the offer made, that is generally defined by the broker's contract. Even "subject to survey" is likely to have some conditions attached.

That's called "standard" where I come from. Not sure how the curing time of 7 days has has been calculated?

Agreed. The boating world is like no other industry I have ever worked in. If you take your car to a professional garage for service or repair you wouldn't expect to be in the workshop while they work on it but you would have things explained to you over the phone or at the time of collection. I guess the difference is that people are familiar with cars and they all come with a user manual.... @wakey_wake your point about "denial of service" is an interesting one and I guess some owners could try it on. My response to that would be to make a revised offer based on the fact that x,y and z would have to be replaced or professionally inspected to prove it works and that comes at a cost. You would then find either the owner plugs everything back in or has to admit that it is faulty/dangerous.

Surely if boatyards are doing poor work you can challenge them? The table below is for Intertuf 16 (other blacking products are available!) https://www.international-marine.com/product/intertuf-16 If you experience failed blacking, can the boatyard prove they followed the manufacturers instructions? If not, they should redo the work at their expense shouldn't they? What records do they keep? Did they record the temperature and humidity during the work? The equipment for this is cheap so there is no excuse for not doing it.

Some surveyors will agree to a meeting once the survey is completed, some will insist that you wait for their report. The amount of work and concentration required during the survey is significant and distractions are likely to lead to things being missed. When you consider that you are paying for an accurate and comprehensive report why would you want to distract them? A survey involves working out what goes where, why did they do that, this is missing, that is broken, swearing and head scratching all of which could encourage a client to form an opinion that is valid or not. My advice would be to request a post survey meeting for an initial overview by all means (this could be done in the car on the journey home?) but the report is the only thing a surveyor will consider legally binding. Once you have read the report, why not then request that the broker allows you to walk through the boat to understand what the contents of the report mean in practice. Alternatively, pay the surveyor for a "guided tour session" as a separate piece of work. Good luck....

Which also means no HD if using Freeview...

Message crossed ? Thanks Ray. In the cases I have seen they must have been added as part of a restoration/conversion and rely on a bilge pump. Dumb question, I assume butties were originally without stern bilge pumps because there was no stern tube that would let water in? Where pumps were fitted, I assume they were hand pumps?

Thanks Tam The points above relate to a butty that has been converted to a motor but I have also seen drains in an ex-working butty, albeit not necessarily a feature of the original build so they could have been added during restoration. In both cases they divert water in to the bilge for the pump to deal with. The "locker" now contains a weedhatch hence the need to correctly describe its location.

Thanks Ray

Thanks Ray, within the 'atches, do you know if the deck has a specific name? I need to technically describe the location of drains located in that area and would prefer to avoid the term "steerer's position deck" if there is a more appropriate name.

I'm trying find the correct (or most widely used) boat terminology for a couple of parts on a butty: i.e. the surface the lady is stood on (is it 'counter' as per the motor boat), the name of the locker behind her and the forward surface (bulkhead) of the locker? Thanks.

I didn't know there was such a thing. Seems there are plenty of options if you have £1K+ to spend. It's the reel to reel tape machine used in the Mind Hunter titles that I like, a work of art. Sony TC-510-2. We need to get this back to Roberts v Bose somehow ?

I mentioned it because the toroidal transformer is a common aftermarket upgrade for 405's.