metal paint

[Patrick Vale]

hi,

I am about to start repairs to the paintwork of my steel narrowboat. She was painted with an unknown primer & top coat (maybe skip paint?) 10 years ago, and now the roof needs attention. While I am doing that, I intend to re-paint the sides as well.

I have got some tercoo rotating scabblers and will also get a DA sander to bring the existing finish into good order. I am also planning to use 'Fertan' rust thing on the prepared surface.

I am wondering what paint system to use. My ideal shopping list is:

Easy to apply (roller, finished by brush, outdoors in the summer)
Good lifespan (corrosion protection in particular)

My list of candidates so far is:

Jotun AlkyldPimer and Pilot II
TA Industrial Paints boat primer (http://www.taindustrialpaints.co.uk/...12,52132,52303) and Enamel Top Coat (http://www.taindustrialpaints.co.uk/...ID=24912,52131)
Dulux unknown primer (not sure what is recommended) and Dulux Metalshield (or Weathershield - I have seen reports of both being used) as the top coat

We live aboard with a mooring so do not travel all the time, but she does go on relatively regular cruises and get the odd knock from locks and so forth.

Cheers,
Patrick

[Robbo]

I'm painting my boat with paint from http://manorcoatingsystems.co.uk/ as recommend by a neighbour whos done the same. They are local to me (Leeds) so have the advantage of picking up locally.

[YamYam]

I'm painting my boat with paint from http://manorcoatingsystems.co.uk/ as recommend by a neighbour whos done the same. They are local to me (Leeds) so have the advantage of picking up locally.

I've always used Dulux Weathershield. Lovely paint to apply and a nice finish which lasts many years with no corrosion showing through esp around the windows. The only downside ( unless its been changed) is it does have a long drying time so best applied on a really still day

I've always used Dulux Weathershield. Lovely paint to apply and a nice finish which lasts many years with no corrosion showing through esp around the windows. The only downside ( unless its been changed) is it does have a long drying time so best applied on a really still day

Apologies for that, inadvertently posted on the wrong post

[Ratty & Moley]

Are you using the gloss or satin finish on the coach sides ?

I've been repaiting with the satin finish, think the weather was too hot today as it was drying too quickly and showing the brush strokes .. Or maybe just my technique isn't great. What do you suggest to get a smooth finish on the top coat ? Brush , roller, or sponge and should I thin the paint down for the final coat ?? Advice will be mist helpful thanks

[nbfiresprite]

I've always used Dulux Weathershield. Lovely paint to apply and a nice finish which lasts many years with no corrosion showing through esp around the windows. The only downside ( unless its been changed) is it does have a long drying time so best applied on a really still day

 

Apologies for that, inadvertently posted on the wrong post

It has been changed, the paint is now water based.

[YamYam]

It has been changed, the paint is now water based.

 

Oh right, thanks for that nbf. Was going to attempt mine this summer. Not being an expert in paint do you know if thats improved it although I would have found it hard to improve. Always thought it was a lovely paint to apply

[Kae]

Oh right, thanks for that nbf. Was going to attempt mine this summer. Not being an expert in paint do you know if thats improved it although I would have found it hard to improve. Always thought it was a lovely paint to apply

 

Not usually, I don't know any paint that's been improved by making it water-based (in fact, quite the opposite!).

 

The number of excellent products that the EU have knackered marches forth!

[YamYam]

Not usually, I don't know any paint that's been improved by making it water-based (in fact, quite the opposite!).

 

The number of excellent products that the EU have knackered marches forth!

Now, why did I know that was going to be answer :-). Best start looking for old stock then

[DHutch]

Is weathershield now water based? How long has that been the case, certainly enjoyed using it on the windows at home before now.

Also heard reports that it needs an above average mix not to streak, but I have only used the white.

 

What about it's sister product metalshield?

 

Daniel

[David Mack]

It has been changed, the paint is now water based.

According to http://www.dulux.co.uk/products/weathershield-exterior-gloss/# weathershield gloss is spirit-based.

[David Schweizer]

According to http://www.dulux.co.uk/products/weathershield-exterior-gloss/# weathershield gloss is spirit-based.

 

I think that must be an old advert, The only spirit based weathershield I have been able to find in shops is white, all the rest is water based (horrible stufff!!) However you can still get spirit based in colours where they mix it for you, I got my last lot from Brewers, who are specialist paint merchants, i don't know whether places like B&Q can also mix it for you.

[David Mack]

 

I think that must be an old advert, The only spirit based weathershield I have been able to find in shops is white, all the rest is water based (horrible stufff!!) However you can still get spirit based in colours where they mix it for you, I got my last lot from Brewers, who are specialist paint merchants, i don't know whether places like B&Q can also mix it for you.

That link is straight to the current Dulux website. It shows it to be available in a (limited) range of colours and spirit based. I got my last lot from my local Dulux trade outlet, where they can mix any colour while you wait.

The likes of B+Q may choose to only stock the water based rubbish.

[nbfiresprite]

The weathershield tins in the local DIY shop clearly state that it is waterbased. Any how Iam using Wilko's Outdoor paint to repaint the boat, it's sprit based and also has a six year weather protection guarantee

[DHutch]

I don't know whether places like B&Q can also mix it for you.

My local BnQ (Uttoxeter) mix some brand I have never heard of, but apparently it varies store-to-store and Mere, just up the road ate mixed Dulux, but changing to something else in a few weeks...

 

 

*Valspar seems to be a Crown/MacPhersons brand.

[DeanS]

Is hammerite paint ok for the outside of a boat?

[Grace and Favour]

Is hammerite paint ok for the outside of a boat?

I know a few members that swear by it (Julynian I believe)

 

Though most swear at it.

 

I use it for mudweights, fence posts, fork handles, toolboxes, gates - in fact, anything where the finish isn't important.

 

It's thick, gloopy, is very difficult to work and impossible to get a decent finish with

[DHutch]

The weathershield tins in the local DIY shop clearly state that it is waterbased.

Looked into this. Seems some of the weathershield paints are water based, but not the gloss:

http://www.dulux.co.uk/products/weathershield-exterior-gloss/#

 

Water based paints list shows:

Weathershield Exterior Satin

Weathershield Exterior Undercoat

Weathershield Multi-Surface Fungicidal Wash

Weathershield Ready to Roll Smooth Masonry Paint

Weathershield Smooth Masonry Paint

Weathershield Textured Masonry Paint

 

But not the gloss.

 

Daniel

[Guest]

Is International Ten Year enamel still spirit based?