A new elum for our butty?

[Chop!]

I'm on the lookout for a hardwood bough of roughly the right shape that I can carve into a strong, but ornate, tiller.

Anyone know which tree would provide me with such a bough?

[stagedamager]

I don't know if it helps but I just made one in steel and it was so much cheaper than wood. Look for my build blog for BCN 1645... all built for less than the price of a good timber for the stock.

Dan

[Timleech]

I'm on the lookout for a hardwood bough of roughly the right shape that I can carve into a strong, but ornate, tiller.

Anyone know which tree would provide me with such a bough?

 

Traditionally 'grown' ash, in other words with the grain approximately following the shape.

As such things are generally not easy to find, may I suggest laminating it? The last few I made, some years ago now, were done with strips of Brazilian mahogany about 3/8" thick, cold bent into shape and glued with Cascamite. Probably Brazilian is frowned upon now and glues have moved on (I still like Cascamite though), but you get the general idea.

Not sure what you mean by 'ornate'?

 

Edit - lighter than ash and probably stronger.

 

 

I don't know if it helps but I just made one in steel and it was so much cheaper than wood. Look for my build blog for BCN 1645... all built for less than the price of a good timber for the stock.

Dan

 

Steel tiller? Horrible idea, apart from the weight just imagine holding on to it in the current weather! (-4C here this morning!).

 

Tim

Edited March 12, 2013 by Timleech

[stagedamager]

Doh! Scrap that post read it as the title not the content. I assumed a new ellum not tiller!!!

Dan

[matty40s]

 

Steel tiller? Horrible idea, apart from the weight just imagine holding on to it in the current weather! (-4C here this morning!).

 

Tim

might be a horrible idea Tim, but it looks very good, and will last for years. An interesting modern take on an old classic.

[Timleech]

might be a horrible idea Tim, but it looks very good, and will last for years. An interesting modern take on an old classic.

 

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Where?

[The Bagdad Boatman (waits)]

Depends where you are at. Just above Bingly 5 rise there is a small wood yard who have a kiln and some good wood. Look for a building restorer who works with beams and knees

[matty40s]

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Where?

here

[Ray T]

For sale on eBay:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Narrowboat-butty-tiller-stearing-arm-/251240417856?_trksid=p3984.m2206&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D129%26meid%3D6193506870904988413%26pid%3D100052%26prg%3D1108%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D190809223270%26

 

[Timleech]

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here

 

I see a wooden tiller.

 

Have you read the OP & this thread?

 

 

Tim

[matty40s]

I see a wooden tiller.

 

Have you read the OP & this thread?

 

 

Tim

I was just showing you Dans elum / tiller/ steery bit at the back....

Unfortunately , the OP started it with elum in the title and we just carried on.....

[Chop!]

I see a wooden tiller.

 

Have you read the OP & this thread?

 

 

Tim

 

That's a great rudder but I wouldn't like to retrieve it if it ever became unseated.

The tiller is wood and nearer to what I have in mind.

I'm replacing the tiller which was made of, mostly, laminated ply and is rotten and cracked.

 

For sale on eBay:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Narrowboat-butty-tiller-stearing-arm-/251240417856?_trksid=p3984.m2206&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D129%26meid%3D6193506870904988413%26pid%3D100052%26prg%3D1108%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D190809223270%26

 

 

Thanks for the link Ray, I'll try a bid on that

 

Depends where you are at. Just above Bingly 5 rise there is a small wood yard who have a kiln and some good wood. Look for a building restorer who works with beams and knees

 

Thanks to the Bagdad Boatman for the tip. Anyone know the name of this wood yard?

 

I don't know if it helps but I just made one in steel and it was so much cheaper than wood. Look for my build blog for BCN 1645... all built for less than the price of a good timber for the stock.

Dan

 

Checked out your blog and FB, great work, my rudder is fairly solid, but I will be strengthening and fettling it, love the idea of the company initials.........

 

Traditionally 'grown' ash, in other words with the grain approximately following the shape.

As such things are generally not easy to find, may I suggest laminating it? The last few I made, some years ago now, were done with strips of Brazilian mahogany about 3/8" thick, cold bent into shape and glued with Cascamite. Probably Brazilian is frowned upon now and glues have moved on (I still like Cascamite though), but you get the general idea.

Thanks Tim, this is what I wanted to know

 

 

Not sure what you mean by 'ornate'?

I fancy carving a little detail onto it

 

Edit - lighter than ash and probably stronger.

 

 

 

 

Tim