allybsc Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) My partner and I have just bought the large woolwich Birmingham and feel like complete newbies all over again! I would like to do some research into it's history but don't quite know where to start, I'm quite prepared to put the work in rather than expecting to be given chapter and verse but any information/pictures would be gladly accepted, can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks. Edited September 9, 2012 by allybsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire~rose Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Congratulations on your new baby. One thing is guaranteed. A baby that size is going to make your eyes water! Looking forward to watching your progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Congratulations on your new baby. One thing is guaranteed. A baby that size is going to make your eyes water! Looking forward to watching your progress Thank you, we *so* have a lot to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Congratulations 121 from your three monthe older brother 109, come and rub hulls some time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Congratulations 121 from your three monthe older brother 109, come and rub hulls some time! Thank you, we would be delighted to do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Here is "Birmingham" & "Bordesley" new in 1936/7 quite early in the life of the boats has the public helath number has not been sign written on the motor. Launched into service in November 1936 the boat wasnt gauged until the following february. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Oh that's so beautiful I could cry We have to have the cabin re-skinned, it would be lovely to do it as per the picture. would it be OK to use that picture on my Facebook page? I'd happy to buy it. Who are the family? Edited September 9, 2012 by allybsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcat Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 congratulations,welcome to the world if "big" boats.Very best wishes from madcat Boris and Halsall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 congratulations,welcome to the world if "big" boats.Very best wishes from madcat Boris and Halsall Thank you...I like big boats and I cannot lie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) Oh that's so beautiful I could cry We have to have the cabin re-skinned, it would be lovely to do it as per the picture. would it be OK to use that picture on my Facebook page? I'd happy to buy it. Who are the family? Dont cry over it please. The picture was lent to an uncle of mine by a boatman many years ago, its part of a collection I have. Sadly he died suddenly many years ago and despite efforts including publishing some of the images in Waterways World no one has come forward. So the family is unknown at present. Please feel free to use the picture just credit my collection as the source. It would be nice to see a Harland & Wollf cabin done correctly, in this picture the boats are two tone blue early livery with the wooden lining panels and beading. Note too the cabin doors and interior painted in a mid grey which is how they were delivered, no scumbling was applied when new. We owned a small Rickmansworth some years ago and the cabin retained some original paint including the grey still intact inside the cupboards. Edited September 9, 2012 by Laurence Hogg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Dont cry over it please. The picture was lent to an uncle of mine by a boatman many years ago, its part of a collection I have. Sadly he died suddenly many years ago and despite efforts including publishing some of the images in Waterways World no one has come forward. So the family is unknown at present. Please feel free to use the picture just credit my collection as the source. It would be nice to see a Harland & Wollf cabin done correctly, in this picture the boats are two tone blue early livery with the wooden lining panels and beading. Note too the cabin doors and interior painted in a mid grey which is how they were delivered, no scumbling was applied when new. We owned a small Rickmansworth some years ago and the cabin retained some original paint including the grey still intact inside the cupboards. Thank you so much, tears of joy I can assure you! This voyage of discovery is going to be such fun! I notice it's got the big funnel, I would like to have one of those made eventually, I doubt I would ever find one going spare. I love the collection of bonny bairns on the cabin top, what a shame we don't know who they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Welcome to the world of owning historic craft, it is truly amazing, although you never truly own, you are merely a custodian for a period of time, but I wouldn't change it for the world. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwheel Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Welcome to the ...... ...... dark side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Welcome to the world of owning historic craft, it is truly amazing, although you never truly own, you are merely a custodian for a period of time, but I wouldn't change it for the world. Dan Thanks...I think it's going to end up owning us! ...... dark side. Hahahaha...move along these are not the rivets you are looking for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwheel Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 I notice it's got the big funnel, Close up for you. Boatmen hated them I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Close up for you. Boatmen hated them I understand. Oh brilliant. I can understand why they didn't care for them, probably a bit too modern, the 30's was a decade of ocean liner styling. I quite like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedwheel Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Oh brilliant. I can understand why they didn't care for them, probably a bit too modern, More the fact that they were a pain to take off every time you went under a low bridge (I think they were bolted on so you needed a spanner to remove them. Are you going to put the creosote lav back too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) More the fact that they were a pain to take off every time you went under a low bridge (I think they were bolted on so you needed a spanner to remove them. Are you going to put the creosote lav back too? Everyone should have a creosote lavvy, I intend to get pie eyed on the fumes! Edited to say wouldn't you think they would have put them on a hinge???? Edited September 9, 2012 by allybsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Creosote rocks! And, although historically accurate, I don't like them funnels! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Creosote rocks! And, although historically accurate, I don't like them funnels! Dan I've only ever seen one on Darley, looks very smart on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedamager Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 I believe Barnet has one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Oh brilliant. I can understand why they didn't care for them, probably a bit too modern, the 30's was a decade of ocean liner styling. I quite like them. We have one on Barnet permanently, first it softens the harshness of the exhaust, 2nd we feel it looks right. The loo will open a whole debate up, all I will say that on either Bilster or Hampstead was the remains of the ducting when Barry Lycett had the boats that was my first learning of the funnel and vented loo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allybsc Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 I believe Barnet has one too. I wonder how many funnels ended up in the cut...accidently! I've started a Facebook page to detail the restoration and history NB Birmingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Hogg Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 I wonder how many funnels ended up in the cut...accidently! Have a seance and ask ........ Wilf Towsend ran our boat and used one until the end. Takes about 20-30 seconds to remove, teaches steerers to be cautious too, dont have to remove for many bridges in reality. I believe the originals just push fitted onto a collar, ours secures with two bolts one either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimneyChain Posted September 9, 2012 Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 Dont cry over it please. The picture was lent to an uncle of mine by a boatman many years ago, its part of a collection I have. Sadly he died suddenly many years ago and despite efforts including publishing some of the images in Waterways World no one has come forward. So the family is unknown at present. Please feel free to use the picture just credit my collection as the source. It would be nice to see a Harland & Wollf cabin done correctly, in this picture the boats are two tone blue early livery with the wooden lining panels and beading. Note too the cabin doors and interior painted in a mid grey which is how they were delivered, no scumbling was applied when new. We owned a small Rickmansworth some years ago and the cabin retained some original paint including the grey still intact inside the cupboards. Isn't the family identified in the nboc news letter 2012/1 ? Darren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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