kendo Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Hi People. I've used Tesco "quick" yeast for making bread and rolls before. It raises OK, but the resulting texture is always somewhat 'spongy', and the taste, although homebaked and good, isn't up to the quality I'm striving for. I always try and use good flour. Are there any tips or recommendations people could pass on? Thankyou. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serendipity Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Hi People. I've used Tesco "quick" yeast for making bread and rolls before. It raises OK, but the resulting texture is always somewhat 'spongy', Breadmaker or oven? Are you sure it's not your flour? Bread flour should be very high protein content (14-15%), cake flour is around 10% (although french bread flour is lowish protein), and will make bread with a softer texture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 By spongy, do you mean full of large bubbles? we had that when we were using slightly too much water in the breadmaker Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athy Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 , do you mean full of large bubbles? Like the last kebab restaurant that I went into. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jampot Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 hiya we make all our bread by hand on the boat(used a breadmaker before, but now we have the time being retired) and always use Doves Farm yeast, in fact, never used any other brand of yeast. Never seen it in supermarkets - it seems to be stocked by these healthfood shops (but not Hollands and Barrett)and because it has such a long shelf life before opened, we keep a good stock in. cheers, Janice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendo Posted October 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Hi folks. thanks for the replies. handmade bread, gas oven. learnt to do it by experimenting with a breadmaker, but prefer the hands on approach now. by "spongy", i mean it's like victoria sponge inside. not bubbly, like a ciabatta. had disastrous results with 'hovis' yeast before, which is why i've been sticking to tesco's own. always try and use the best (bread) flour i can source. never felt brave enough to venture into healthfood shops before, but now i have a good reason. cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Hi folks. thanks for the replies. handmade bread, gas oven. learnt to do it by experimenting with a breadmaker, but prefer the hands on approach now. by "spongy", i mean it's like victoria sponge inside. not bubbly, like a ciabatta. had disastrous results with 'hovis' yeast before, which is why i've been sticking to tesco's own. always try and use the best (bread) flour i can source. never felt brave enough to venture into healthfood shops before, but now i have a good reason. cheers. I think the secret is to experiment with your recipe, we use a bread maker and at first we found the bread fell short of what we expected. However we tried varying quantities etc untill we got it just right for us. I think that the recipies that come with bread makers are a bit "general purpose" in other words they start you off and after that it's up to you to make adjustments. The same is probably true of hand baking bread, in fact during my time as a chef I learnt that you had to adjust any cooking method to suit your particular kitchen/ingredients/whatever. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionadragon Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Hi. I too use Doves Farm quick yeast, from health food shops. But I have found the magic extra ingredient that makes fabulous wholemeal or mixed grain bread is Claybrooke Mill Organic Dough Improver, from Lakeland (plastics). Everyone who eats my bread tells me that it is the best they ever tasted. I use the best ingredients, organic flour, olive oil, honey and sea salt. If bread is the staff of life then it is worth using the best ingredients and it still costs less than bought loaves. Good baking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 No-one seems to have mentioned the use of Vitamin C as a bread improver. It is widely used by commercial bakeries and is a much cheaper way of improving the texture and keeping qualities of a loaf than some of your fancy ingredients mentioned here. I use half a 500mg tablet crushed per loaf, and I can certainly tell the difference if I've forgotten to add it. FTR, I use ordinary Allinson's yeast, but let it work with the sugar and (lukewarm) water for about ten minutes before adding the other ingredients. Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick_B Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Mac... I've heard of hash cakes but never vitamin C loaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Always use Doves Farm Yeast and Vitamin C powder in the bread machine, hardly ever a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Ambrose Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Always use Doves Farm Yeast and Vitamin C powder in the bread machine, hardly ever a failure. Oh yes I also use vitamin C powder but only when baking Brown/Wholemeal bread, never come across Doves Farm yeast but only ever use Hovis or Allisons quick acting yeast as recommended by bread machine recipe book. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgit Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Did anyone see the bbc 2. Great British bake off? The master baker gave a demo on bread baking. He used two sachets of yeast to 1lb 1oz of strong flour. He also wet his hands and work surface will olive oil instead of dusting with flour. I found this method much better, it worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 No-one seems to have mentioned the use of Vitamin C as a bread improver. It is widely used by commercial bakeries and is a much cheaper way of improving the texture and keeping qualities of a loaf than some of your fancy ingredients mentioned here. I use half a 500mg tablet crushed per loaf, and I can certainly tell the difference if I've forgotten to add it. FTR, I use ordinary Allinson's yeast, but let it work with the sugar and (lukewarm) water for about ten minutes before adding the other ingredients. Mac Hi Mac, I too always use Vitamin C - but I suggest you try using pure Vitamin C crystals (NOT the tablets - the tablets have far too much filler in) You might also like to try adding a teaspoonful of pure ground ginger (powder) to the ingredients as well - - it works with the Vit C and produces a superb texture (and doesn't make the bread taste of ginger!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Hi Mac, I too always use Vitamin C - but I suggest you try using pure Vitamin C crystals (NOT the tablets - the tablets have far too much filler in) You might also like to try adding a teaspoonful of pure ground ginger (powder) to the ingredients as well - - it works with the Vit C and produces a superb texture (and doesn't make the bread taste of ginger!) I hardly think the amount of filler in half a Vit C tablet is going to be detectable in a loaf, and I have the tablets anyway, being a believer....... But I'll cetainly try the ginger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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