Rotted wood around windows

[kendo]

 

Hi People.

 

How would i go about fixing this?

 

i've googled, and there seem to be two solutions.

but i'm not sure which is more suitable for a narrowboat.

 

1) unscrew fascias and replace all knackered wood with good wood.

2) chisel out the worst bits and pad with water resistant filler.

 

or

 

3) it's a specialist job. pay somebody else to do it.

 

would appreciate your advice.

thankyou.

 

[W+T]

 

Hi People.

 

How would i go about fixing this?

 

i've googled, and there seem to be two solutions.

but i'm not sure which is more suitable for a narrowboat.

 

1) unscrew fascias and replace all knackered wood with good wood.

2) chisel out the worst bits and pad with water resistant filler.

 

or

 

3) it's a specialist job. pay somebody else to do it.

 

would appreciate your advice.

thankyou.

 

 

 

Hi matey, i dont know what you are trying to repair as your pic hasnt shown but i would say cut out and replace if you can remove the frame, i did this with my wheel house and it was easy, even for a ameture like me and you cant realy tell much.

 

 

 

i dont have a pic of it oiled but it does look good, i just cut out the originla nd glued n screwed the new part in place.

[kendo]

Hi matey, i dont know what you are trying to repair as your pic hasnt shown

ahoy W + T. are photobucket links not valid? the pic shows up in your quoted reply fine.

(it is a narrowboat hopper window, and the wood that surrounds it).

 

i would say cut out and replace if you can remove the frame

i was worried that the window might pop out, but i will give it a go.

 

i did this with my wheel house and it was easy

nice job. but your wood is substantially thicker than mine.

 

thanks.

[OldGoldy]

How would i go about fixing this?

 

1) unscrew fascias and replace all knackered wood with good wood.

[PaddingtonBear]

I would also take out the windows, clean off rust repaint with good quality primer and reseal as I would not want the new wood to go the same way. Good luck.

Edited February 12, 2010 by PaddingtonBear

[WotEver]

I would also take out the windows, clean off rust repaint with good quality primer and reseal as I would not want the new wood to go the same way. Good luck.

Ditto.

 

Although the damp may have simply come from condensation as it has on our boat. I'm about to do the exact same replacement this spring if I can find the time.

 

Tony

[Grace and Favour]

Cut out and replace - -

 

May I also suggest you determine what caused the wood to rot in the first place - and cure that problem as well!

 

(otherwise you'll be cutting out and replacing next year too!)

[wirren]

Hi

Just beware that any window screws may go into the timber you are replacing. May be worth removing window screws first.

[kendo]

righto... thanks people.

we're reasonably sure it's condensation that's done it.

especially in the bed area, which was unvented.

 

the window seals look OK, no apparent leaks.

and frames are aluminium. no apparent rust?

 

when the new wood is in, what should i treat or paint it with?

 

previous owner slapped white emulsion over everything. we like the

white, but not the porous quality of the woodwork. Do we seal with

something, and then paint over that? Or just slap the paint on? Was

thinking of white gloss (for easy wipe down). bad idea?

[PaddingtonBear]

Make sure that you get quality wood to replace and that you paint the reverse side especially any end grain properly. It is usual for the reveals and the window surrounds to be some sort of hardwood as it is usually a 'feature'. Just because you can't see rust don't think it is not there Although it seems easy this might prove a mirage but you will get a tremendous sense of satisfaction when you have finished, the only thing is you will want to do all the windows.

[kendo]

the only thing is you will want to do all the windows.

thanks PB. I need to do all the windows anyway.

big job. but like you say, the sense of satisfaction will be enormous.

 

cheers..

[WotEver]

when the new wood is in, what should i treat or paint it with?

If you're going white again, then at least two coats (all over, including the bits you can't see - so paint it before you fit it) of quality wood primer, followed by a coat of quality undercoat, followed by two coats of quality gloss.

 

Mine are varnished, and when I replace them I'll soak them in Owatrol and when that's dry, see if I like the finish. If not, then I'll give them a few coats of Danish Oil - it shouldn't peel like varnish.

 

Tony

[smileypete]

righto... thanks people.

we're reasonably sure it's condensation that's done it.

especially in the bed area, which was unvented.

 

the window seals look OK, no apparent leaks.

and frames are aluminium. no apparent rust?

 

when the new wood is in, what should i treat or paint it with?

 

previous owner slapped white emulsion over everything. we like the

white, but not the porous quality of the woodwork. Do we seal with

something, and then paint over that? Or just slap the paint on? Was

thinking of white gloss (for easy wipe down). bad idea?

 

Once the new wood is cut to size, I would seal all sides and particularly end grain with a coat or two of protective wood stain (not wood dye!) Then the visible bits can be given a coat of paint on top where need be.

 

A microporous/breathable wood stain would be ideal, Sikkens Cetol HLS is my fave but another make or own brand equivalent would do.

 

Better still, treat the wood pieces once cut to size with spirit based wood treatment, following the instructions on the tin.

 

cheers,

Pete.

[Keeping Up]

Assume that the wood around the windows is "sacrificial"; just remove the whole piece and replace it (preferably with a well-sealed hard wood)

[kendo]

Assume that the wood around the windows is "sacrificial";

nod... we had. it's very thin stuff. what wood would you recommend?

(bearing in mind we'll be painting it white again).

 

 

thankyou people, for the end and underside sealing tips.

i'd have bodged it. but now i know how to do it properly.

 

appreciated.

 

[WotEver]

nod... we had. it's very thin stuff. what wood would you recommend?

(bearing in mind we'll be painting it white again).

Marine ply if you can source some offcuts.

 

Hardwood if you can source some at the right price.

 

Any old softwood if your budget is limited - but you MUST treat it well before fitting or it won't last a year.