soldthehouse Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 The animals we eat can be guaranteed a life of no suffering. You just have to pay more for the pleasure of knowing where your food comes from and how it was reared.I can go with the life of no suffering bit, but its the way thay are treated just prior to dying or while dying that is the gut wrenching bit, like a petrified cow being hoisted up on a forklift cos its gone off its feet with fright or being turned upside down and having its throat cut then being expected to get up and walk to another room for the final cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I can go with the life of no suffering bit, but its the way thay are treated just prior to dying or while dying that is the gut wrenching bit, like a petrified cow being hoisted up on a forklift cos its gone off its feet with fright or being turned upside down and having its throat cut then being expected to get up and walk to another room for the final cut Thats how the big slaughter houses work. The butcher we use has his own abotoir at the side of his shop. I can assure you it is a very swift process in smaller establishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Thats how the big slaughter houses work. The butcher we use has his own abotoir at the side of his shop. I can assure you it is a very swift process in smaller establishments.There are no small abbatoirs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSer Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I can go with the life of no suffering bit, but its the way thay are treated just prior to dying or while dying that is the gut wrenching bit, like a petrified cow being hoisted up on a forklift cos its gone off its feet with fright or being turned upside down and having its throat cut then being expected to get up and walk to another room for the final cut I've got to say i've been in a fair few slaughterhouses (none of them specialist IYKWIM no halal or Kosher type places) over many years and what you describe is almost the total opposite to what I have witnessed myself with my own eyes, sure they don't all get a hug and played nice music but never like you have described. I'd guess there are extreme samples of every experience in life, but they shouldn't be used to describe the norm. Ps do you know how heavy a cow is? How else would you mooove it? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 There are no small abbatoirs Try Wastney & Son Very very good locally produced meat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayalld Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Thats how the big slaughter houses work. The butcher we use has his own abotoir at the side of his shop. I can assure you it is a very swift process in smaller establishments. Odd that you should care so much about the cows that you eat, but not about the pike that you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Odd that you should care so much about the cows that you eat, but not about the pike that you don't. The pike goes back fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayalld Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 The pike goes back fine. Yes, he goes back fine, AFTER you've inflicted a bit of suffering on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Yes, he goes back fine, AFTER you've inflicted a bit of suffering on him. How do you know he suffers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 How do you know he suffers?How do you know he doesnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 How do you know he doesnt Have you seen the lips of a pike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Have you seen the lips of a pike?lost me there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 lost me there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 still lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 It isnt worth the effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) It isnt worth the efforttry me nothing in life worth achieving is easily achieved Edited September 23, 2009 by soldthehouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 try me No we shall only disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 No we shall only disagree theres nowt wrong in that one of us might see sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Trouble is neither of us will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Trouble is neither of us willI,m capable of seeing reason, apology and being newly educated by some one better informed thats how i learn things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJ Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 FFS Don't you find this tedious? Haven't you got anything better to do than bicker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldthehouse Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 FFSDon't you find this tedious? Haven't you got anything better to do than bicker? I thought i was being constructive you havent seen me bicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mayalld Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Have you seen the lips of a pike? It isn't so much the hook through the lips as the suffocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naughty Cal Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 It isn't so much the hook through the lips as the suffocation. Would you suffocate in a minute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLWP Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Would you suffocate in a minute? Now your talking. How long does it take to suffocate? I think some practical experimentation is required here. To assess the impact of physical variables we need a small range of people to suffocate to do a proper test. Say a young woman and a middle aged man. Richard Any volunteers? Phylis? Dave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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