rudefuss Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) hi there just need to know what the best wood for bettening a standard liverpool boat is .Is untreated 2 by 1 available from home base good enough cheers oh yeah where can i get a spray foam kit (not 1l cans but the big stuff) Edited May 3, 2008 by rudefuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Have you actually bought the shell yet? If not, it would probably be better to buy it already insulated ..... it's not a job for amateurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bargeeboy Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) If you value your investment use tanalised battons. And get a professional to spray foam ( a bit jounalistic using 'and' to begin a sentence !). Edited May 3, 2008 by bargeeboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Definately use treated timber its alarming how fast bare wood can rot when confined in damp enclosed spaces. Tanalised timber also offers some protection from insect damage too I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almostafloat Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Any treated timber should suffice as the sprayfoam will reduce the effects of condensation, i would personally retreat any pretreated timber anyway, and i sell the stuff! The sprayfoam is a specialist job and they wont cover anything like wires or other services so it must be bare ,just incase you start installing stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Orentas Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 Why does everyone presume that a boat is going to be damp.. I just used B & Q pallet wood, I did slap Waxoyl over everything later as much because it was to hand as anything else. Spray-on foam is not essential for a DIY job, builders tend to use it for convenience but polystyrene sheet is at least as good, save a few quid too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac49 Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 If you've not got your shell yet it might be worth as 1066 said getting them to do it, plus they didn't charge any extra to do it when I got mine. For any extra battons i've added i 've generally used 2x1 slate batons from a timber yard but they tend to store these outdoors so with the weather at the minute they'll be soaked right through but you might find somewhere that keeps them under cover. If not the stuff at Homebase sounds fine you'll just pay a bit more. Cheers Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malarky Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) If you value your investment use tanalised battons. And get a professional to spray foam ( a bit jounalistic using 'and' to begin a sentence !). Possibly fibreglass or rockwool is better, as it makes welding easier at a later date, but more effort is required to install it properly. Edited May 3, 2008 by Malarky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reg Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 hi there just need to know what the best wood for bettening a standard liverpool boat is .Is untreated 2 by 1 available from home base good enough cheers oh yeah where can i get a spray foam kit (not 1l cans but the big stuff) [/quot Foam Kits here Regards and good look with the build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfisher Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 hi it would be better for you to batten the boat out that way you can set out the battens to suit your layout ,which means you decide where you want the sheet joints and you can probably hide some behind bulkheads etc .25mm wpb plywood cut into 50mm strips will be fine for battens or even better 30mm .i dont think theres much money to save buy using the foam kits ,weve looked in to it for our boats and decided to stick with the profesionals websters even cut back the excess for you which is a horrible job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smileypete Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 hi there just need to know what the best wood for bettening a standard liverpool boat is .Is untreated 2 by 1 available from home base good enough cheers oh yeah where can i get a spray foam kit (not 1l cans but the big stuff) Hi, If you have a good local timber yard, why not give them a try, they may cost a little more but the timber is often much better quality. It's much better to stop water getting to the wood in the first place, for battens I would give them an all over coat of quick drying wood stain before fitting. The easiest way may be to coat the uncut lengths all over, and then cut and coat the ends as needed when fitting. cheers, Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonron Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 i am working for a tradtional boat builder part time in exchange for help on mine. any wood will do as you boat shouldnt be leaking or getting wet. condensation does occur but not that bad. it is always bad ventilation or leaks that cause damp and mould. if you winter your boat buy a 100 pound dehumidifer and run it for a few days etc and will make a real differance to your bedding etc as well as all the small areas. its ok getting treated battons etc but where do you stop, marine ply for the walls etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudefuss Posted May 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 If you value your investment use tanalised battons. And get a professional to spray foam ( a bit jounalistic using 'and' to begin a sentence !). thanks for your advice but what do you maen by jounalistic ? is this a real word ? But honestly thank you i was going to waste my money on crap wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudefuss Posted May 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 hey thankyou to everyone for advice on the subject just to add a little tip of my own, if you are spray foaming your self instead of spraying and then cutting back , use a board the same size as you r panels, grease it up or REALLY cling film it, drill holes for your nozzle at 6" intervals and spray into the holes. this gives you total coverage ( even with small cans ) and a smooth surface to slap your ply on.it works really well and saves lots of time and mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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