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carlt Veteran II

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Just out of curiosity is there anyway you can find out who or where a boat is registered to from the BW number ?. suppose like checking the registration details for a car with the DVLA sort of thing...

 

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SC

BW won't reveal the name and address of boat owners. That information is protected under the DPA (though before that you could get the information for the princely sum of 10 pence).

 

They will, however, forward a letter to the owner, for you.

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There isn't even any official list of boat CIN's (Craft Identification Numbers) so in the UK boats are very untraceable when compared to the VIN's used on vehicles.

 

And compared to the values - you get more details from a VIN for 100quid Ford Escort than a 55grand second hand bowt....

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BW won't reveal the name and address of boat owners. That information is protected under the DPA (though before that you could get the information for the princely sum of 10 pence).

 

They will, however, forward a letter to the owner, for you.

 

But EA will give this information if you have a reason for wanting it.

Sue

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David Schweizer Veteran II

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BW will sometimes divulge the information, but only if you have reasonable reason. I wanted confirmation of the opriginal owner of my boat which was a commercial organization, I only had some incomplete imformation and they did give me a full name, but the company was out of business so my enquiries came to a full halt.

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BW will sometimes divulge the information, but only if you have reasonable reason. I wanted confirmation of the opriginal owner of my boat which was a commercial organization, I only had some incomplete imformation and they did give me a full name, but the company was out of business so my enquiries came to a full halt.

Would the DPA cover an organisation, as opposed to an individual?

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Would the DPA cover an organisation, as opposed to an individual?

 

Absolutely NOT

 

The DPA relates to the processing of personal data only which is defined (in simple terms) as:

 

"Information relating to a living individual who can be identified from the information"

 

Happy to provide more detailed terminally boring information if required - one of my training and consultancy "hats" is the DPA :(

 

Mike

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Some years ago following an incident when our dog was badly injured I needed to trace the address of the owner of another boat . I only had the index number of the boat and when I asked the patrol officer they at first refused to give me any details. However when I reported the matter to the police and was given a crime incident number , then the patrol officer had no choice but to release the information . Obviously therefore there is a database linking boat names to owners - its just not normally available.

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Some years ago following an incident when our dog was badly injured I needed to trace the address of the owner of another boat . I only had the index number of the boat and when I asked the patrol officer they at first refused to give me any details. However when I reported the matter to the police and was given a crime incident number , then the patrol officer had no choice but to release the information . Obviously therefore there is a database linking boat names to owners - its just not normally available.
It seems to me that BW are missing a chance to raise more revenue.I'm sure that most people would pay a small fee to confirm ownership of a boat they may be purchasing.A sustantial amount of money is often involved!How do brokers ensure the boat they are selling belongs to the seller and is free of finance?And yes,we are planning to buy a boat and join you all after years of hiring!
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Then just to add confusion there are two boats adjcent to eachother on Davidson moorings on the Erewash that both display number the plates have a red background rather than the black one is it any different?

 

They are the canal equivalent of trade plates.

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It seems to me that BW are missing a chance to raise more revenue.I'm sure that most people would pay a small fee to confirm ownership of a boat they may be purchasing.A sustantial amount of money is often involved!How do brokers ensure the boat they are selling belongs to the seller and is free of finance?And yes,we are planning to buy a boat and join you all after years of hiring!

 

How do you know that the person registering the boat with BW owns it?

 

Even if they did own it at the time of registration or the last licence renewal, how do you know that they still own it when they come to sell it to you?

 

As far as I'm aware, in the UK the only way for a member of the public to ascertain the ownership history of a pleasure vessel (and whether or not anyone has a lien over the vessel, such as a marine mortgage vendor, or somebody with a claim for salvage) is if it's been registered on part 1 of the UK Ship Register, run by the Maritime & Coastguard Agency. This is optional, and as many of the benefits of registration are only useful to vessels going outside of UK territorial waters (it entitles you to the protection of the Royal Navy and the services of British Consuls abroad, for example), most narrowboat owners (and quite a lot of yacht owners too) don't bother. The Small Ships Register (part 3) is pretty much useless in this context, as all registration on there proves is the nationality of the vessel.

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