humber barge Humber Barge Capabilities

[Alan de Enfield]

51 minutes ago, ditchcrawler said:

Surly that is not the same one?

 

Exactly the same - and it looks as if the previous owner also fell into the "its just a project, no problem" hole when he bought it in 2016 :

 

2016 :

 

She has a "fully reconditioned" Lister JK6 engine which is currently suspended from a block and tackle with plenty of strops....don't suppose you know anyone near to West Yorkshire who would be able to advise/assist with installing and commissioning that monster do you? The engine came out of the condemned barge "FLIP" and I have been given a "link" showing it running.

Getting the JK6 up and running will be the top priority.

 

And now in 2021 :

 

Lister JK6 (completely rebuilt sitting in the engine room but not conected)

 

Presumably the engine has not ever been turned over in the last 5 years.

 

Not a lot has happened - when the reality of the size of the project hits you, you become demoralised and the millstone around your neck gets heavier and heavier. There are two 'good' days with a boat like this :

The day you buy it, and the day you find someone to buy it from you.

 

I wish we could somehow give a knowledge and experience 'transfusion' so that the starry-eyed, rose-tinted spectacle wearing wannabees could actually be shown what is involved in even a 'normal' (modern) boat renovation - throw in 80 foot of dubious riveted cast iron plating and it becomes an horrendously expensive undertaking. 

 

Unless the @Dave6669 has £100k upwards to throw at it I expect we will see another starry-eyed wannabe posting here in another 4 years "hey, guess what, I've just bought Maxwell of York as a rebuild project".

 

Edited July 13, 2021 by Alan de Enfield

[Naughty Cal]

No problem though it can go straight down the Humber and be put to sea 🤣🤣🤣

 

(For the avoidance of doubt that was very tongue in cheek 😳) 

[Dave6669]

6 minutes ago, Naughty Cal said:

No problem though it can go straight down the Humber and be put to sea 🤣🤣🤣

 

(For the avoidance of doubt that was very tongue in cheek 😳) 

Ha ha Ha

 

[Bee]

2 hours ago, The Happy Nomad said:

 

Nice looking boat but this would put me off-

 

The whole of the aluminium superstructure is in need of repair due to water ingress. Interior timbers are in need of replacing or re-furbishing due to damp/condensation/water ingress damage and water marks.

 

What is involved in repairing an aluminium superstructure I wonder.

Buckets full of pop rivets. Although actually Al can be bonded (posh word for glued) quite successfully and a very handy person could very likely make a reasonably good job without tearing the lot off. 

[Alan de Enfield]

3 minutes ago, Bee said:

Buckets full of pop rivets. Although actually Al can be bonded (posh word for glued) quite successfully and a very handy person could very likely make a reasonably good job without tearing the lot off. 

 

 

My thinking of 'the job' was that the joints between panels had leaked and the wooden frame work was rotten and needed a replacing - certainly a 'minor job' when compared to "Maxwell of York"

[David Mack]

4 hours ago, MrsM said:

Not the first time this boat has been bought by a forum member by all accounts!

 

On that thread the new owner says getting the JK6 installed and running is a priority. Sounds like his priorities changed!

Edited July 13, 2021 by David Mack

[Tam & Di]

The engine details may well also affect the aim of taking the ship to France. The requirement for vessels >20m to have an ES-TRIN (technical requirements for inland navigation vessels) certificate has been mentioned, but it is a lot more complex than the UK BSS.

 

There was a run-in period before certification was introduced where old vessels gained 'grandfather rights' allowing them to avoid a lot of the more problematic requirements, but a vessel being brought into service on continental waterways today is effectively treated as a new-build, and must comply with e.g. engine specifications which I am fairly confident would exclude the possibility of a JK6 as it could never meet the emissions limit.

 

Tam

 

 

Edited July 14, 2021 by Tam & Di

[KenK]

Another word of caution, at the moment you can obtain a French tourist visa for stays of up to six months or a long stay visa for up to a year, this is in addition to the 90 days in every 180 which can be used in the rest of Europe. 

In 2022 a Europe wide visa ETIAS comes into force and at the moment no one seems to know how this will affect the French visas, DBA keeps asking questions but so far no answers.