Electrical Installation

[maffi mushkila]

This sounds like "No User Serviceable Parts Inside" to me.

 

A great way to sell new power supplies when the internal fuse blows.

 

If you can get them it's easy enough!

[John Orentas]

Daniel.

 

I have removed and replaced the lead on our Dyson, it took about five minutes.

 

Daniel are you under the impression that because a label says "No user replaceable parts" or similar you are not allowed to touch it. If so, then that is absolute rubbish, there is no such law or regulation, but if enough people go around pedalling this trash we will inevitably get one.

 

Where does it come from.

[Gary Peacock]

Daniel.

 

I have removed and replaced the lead on our Dyson, it took about five minutes.

 

Daniel are you under the impression that because a label says "No user  replaceable parts" or similar you are not allowed to touch it.  If so, then that is absolute rubbish, there is no such law or regulation, but if enough people go around pedalling this trash we will inevitably get one.

 

Where does it come from.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

I used to work with equipment we bought in bulk from Italy when the Italian arm of the business closed down, it was identical to the UK and US spec equipment except for an extra small epoxy encapsulated board in the base of the machine puzzled by this hidden extra we started to ask questions of the Japanese manufacturers. Who explained that in certain markets they enforced the design life of their equipment by the inclusion of a count down timer, this started ticking at the time the equipment was commissioned and at a preset time in the future the equipment would become inoperable. Apparently this was part of the sales contract and the customers were aware of it. We were given a patch to defeat it for the UK market but if it actually could defeat the hardware I always had my doubts, the customers will be finding out fairly soon though!

 

Gary

[ChrisPy]

the customers were aware of it.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

'customers'? - the wholesalers or Joe Bloggs in the street?

 

was Joe told that the equipment would fail, or just that there was a guaranteed design life?

[dor]

I have removed and replaced the lead on our Dyson, it took about five minutes.

 

Ah but which model?

 

I took my old DC01 to bits easily, but I am not sure I would make much impact on my latest one.

 

Is this trend to using "tamperproof" screws and special tools to assemble things put up by the H&SE mafia to "protect us from ourselves"?

[John Orentas]

I suspect it is more a case of Mr. Dyson injecting a bit of planned obsolescence

[DHutch]

Ah but which model?

 

Its the DC04 (later version of the DC01)

 

- There are not screws, it clips on and then cannot be removed in one peice.

 

- Its the same with a lot of things that are "sealed for life"

 

 

Daniel

[John Orentas]

Good God, you all know the model numbers of your vacuum cleaners.

[DHutch]

Good God, you all know the model numbers of your vacuum cleaners.

 

[DHutch]

 

- There, God knows where numbers 6,9,10,12,13 went!!

 

lol

 

 

Daniel

[DHutch]

I still think No4 is the best!!

- And you can get second hand ones for a very good price!

[maffi mushkila]

I used to work with equipment we bought in bulk from Italy when the Italian arm of the business closed down, it was identical to the UK and US spec equipment except for an extra small epoxy encapsulated board in the base of the machine puzzled by this hidden extra we started to ask questions of the Japanese manufacturers. Who explained that in certain markets they enforced the design life of their equipment by the inclusion of a count down timer, this started ticking at the time the equipment was commissioned and at a preset time in the future the equipment would become inoperable. Apparently this was part of the sales contract and the customers were aware of it. We were given a patch to defeat it for the UK market but if it actually could defeat the hardware I always had my doubts, the customers will be finding out fairly soon though!

 

Gary

 

Didn't I read a piece about that a year or two ago concerning burglar alarms?

 

IIRC for a £200 call out fee the techie came out and removed the offending timer.

[maffi mushkila]

Ah but which model?

 

I took my old DC01 to bits easily, but I am not sure I would make much impact on my latest one.

 

Is this trend to using "tamperproof" screws and special tools to assemble things put up by the H&SE mafia to "protect us from ourselves"?

 

"TORQ" screw drivers are quite common. If you arte DIY oriented obtaining these shouldn't be a problem.

[maffi mushkila]

Well thank you!

 

The last thing I wanted right now was a reminder of my time on DYSON's production line.

 

Have you people no respect.

Edited April 12, 2005 by maffi mushkila

[DHutch]

The last thing I wanted right now was a reminder of my time on DYSON's production line.

 

Yeah well, msn is donw again, so i gota do somthing the past the time!!

 

 

Daniel

[bottle]

<SNIP>

 

The last thing I wanted right now was a reminder of my time on DYSON's production line. <SNIP>

 

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

 

And now he's working on 'planes, one way of going up in the world: BOOM......BOOM

 

[John Orentas]

Daniel.

 

I am now in my 61st year, if I had so much knowledge about Dyson vacuum cleaners I would certainly not admit to it, as I recall you are a little younger than me.

 

Lapsing reluctantly into the modern vernacular. "Get a life"

Edited April 13, 2005 by John Orentas

[David Schweizer]

I was once offered the opportunity to borrow a brand new Dyson Vacuum Cleaner for a few days whilst my neighbour's cleaner was on holiday. It was awfull, not only did it not work any better than my ancient Electrolux, it was made of cheap moulded plastic held together with lugs rather than screws. in two days the drive belt broke and the hand operated suction control fell off. I have never seen such expensive rubbish in my life. What's more it didn't have a rubish bag so you had to waggle the whole damned thing over the dustbin to remove the dirt, whose bright idea was that?

[maffi mushkila]

I was once offered the opportunity to borrow a brand new Dyson Vacuum Cleaner for a few days whilst my neighbour's cleaner was on holiday. It was awfull, not only did it not work any better than my ancient Electrolux, it was made of cheap moulded plastic held together with lugs rather than screws. in two days the drive belt broke and the hand operated suction control fell off. I have never seen such expensive rubbish in my life. What's more it didn't have a rubish bag so you had to waggle the whole damned thing over the dustbin to remove the dirt, whose bright idea was that?

 

That was DYSON's bright idea and made him personally £100,000,000.

 

The Lexan (clear plastic) container does actually lift away from the cleaner.

 

All the major components were injection molded to a very high standard. When you are paying £80,000 - £100,000 for one mold you dont get crap. On one occasion I threw away over £300,000 worth of Lexan moldings in one week. Towards the end some previously unacceptable moldings were used but only ones that were internal.

 

Even though I wouldn't have a DYSON if you paid me it was still an amazing piece of design engineering.

[maffi mushkila]

And now he's working on 'planes, one way of going up in the world: BOOM......BOOM

 

That was between Kuwait and Saudi. And for nearly £10 an hour it was quite a nice little earner.

 

 

PS If ya aircraft does that (BOOM......BOOM) ya just lost the turbine.