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  1. Can anyone advise on a boatyard on or near the Caldon Canal, Staffordshire, where I might get a GRP 28 foot cruiser out of the water for a survey and onward road transport. Also, any recommendation for a surveyor in that area would be helpful please. Many thanks
  2. Hi, I'm in the process of buying my first narrowboat to live aboard. It was surveyed today and I've just received a quick update from the surveyor saying there's some pitting on the hull that needs spot welding. I'll receive the full survey report in the next couple of days. The boat is 16 years old and is for sale for just over 50k. Is pitting that requires spot welding a serious problem? Thanks in advance.
  3. Hi, below are photos of pitting discovered on a hull survey on a 57 ft narrowboat built in 2007. The survey report says there is a small amount of deep pitting on the side plates and some other pitting measuring upto 0.9mm, and the deep pits require back filling with weld. The photos are of both the deep and upto 0.9mm pitting after the hull has been jet sprayed. The hull readings taken are all ok and there's only been minor diminution of plate thickness. I'm trying to get opinions on the severity of the pitting if possible based on the photos. Unfortunately it won't let me upload the individual photos because they're above the maximum allowed size limit so I've had to take a screenshot of all 14 images. Not sure if they will be clear enough. Thanks.
  4. Evening all, I need to find a surveyor to carry out a full narrowboat survey in the Cheshire area (Northwich). Any recommendations would be really appreciated. Thanks
  5. Hi all, My partner and I are looking for a narrow boat which we plan to live on around the Bristol/Bath area. We're after surveyor recommendations as we're on a tight budget so can't afford to be caught out with buying a boat that needs lots of over-plating and drains all our funds that we've put aside to do an internal re-fit! We're looking at project narrow boats which need some or all of the interior fitting out. Can anyone recommend a good surveyor to us please? we are interested in a few boats which are in different places round the country so it would need to be someone who will be wiling to travel. Also we are looking for hard-standing in the Bristol area where we can do any work to the interior that is needed- does anyone know of anywhere with space and which allows full-time access? thanks in advance, Imogen and Staszek
  6. Hi everyone, we are new to the community and new to boating, so looking for some advice on a boat we are considering buying (for a small business with commercial mooring; not live aboard). Before viewing the boat we were advised (by boating friends, sadly not local so couldn't come along) to look out for rust on the waterline and in the bilge. There seems to be rust in both areas (see pics), though we're unsure how superficial. The owner unfortunately has not had a survey done, though it has been out for reblacking about three years ago and he says should be slightly overdue another three coats now (Comastic). It's a 55ft 1999 narrowboat which will also be needing a new engine. Obviously we'd be looking to get a full survey done before commiting anything, but my question is, based on these issues, is it worth it at all or would it be better (particularly given our inexperience) to walk away (or possibly try to haggle down substantially)? We're not shy of doing the work, but would like to pay a fair price and know what we might be walking into. Perhaps estimated price ranges (for boat or work) would also be useful, though I know this might not really be enough info to go on. Thanks in advance! Attached are some pics we took of the rusty areas:
  7. Hi all, I am completely new to the idea of boating and have been thinking for some time about buying a canal boat as a live aboard. An offer has come up on a fairly old 43 foot alvechurch boat with a steel hull, lots of rust and pitting around gunnels and stern, the hull has had some replating (this is somewhat reflected in the price) and if I were to buy it I would commision a survey. However the inside is very tatty and needs alot of work doing, including the stove installing at the other end of the boat as it has been removed from one end and replaced with a cupboard. This is where the confusion with the safety certificate comes in. I was wondering if it was legal and upstanding to get the boat safety certificate done before re-installing the stove or whether I would have to do this before inviting a BSS examiner on. This is important as the licsence runs out on the boat shortly and obviously no BSS certificate=no license which means me not being able to move the boat to a marina, drydock etc for completing the rest of the work. The guy who is selling it is a friend of a friend and seems a really sound guy but he does want a bit more than I was intending to pay so therefore the certificate and license situation could sway me in one direction or the other in terms of time and money, any help would be fantastic, thanks,
  8. Hello. You may have seen this post a while ago about a £340k boat. I went to see it on Thursday and would appreciate any thoughts anyone might have about it. It was of course a typo and the listing price should have been £34k. I thought it might be worth checking out as the typo might mean it's been overlooked by others and not showing up in searches for a certain price range. I've upped my budget a little since I started looking a couple of months ago, mainly after reading some sage advice aimed at others on these forums, and am now looking around the £30k mark, possibly rising to £32k for the right boat. My thinking on viewing the advert was that although the boat looks a bit tired and chintzy from the photos and didn't particularly grab me, there are a few positives: lots of potential with the space (second cabin could become home office), choice of solid fuel burner or diesel powered radiators, separate diesel generator (though needs some work), washing machine, eye-level oven, mixture of portholes and hopper windows (a few threads on here suggest this is desirable: portholes for cabin, hoppers for saloon and kitchen), and the paint job looks in very good condition on the outside. Plus, the seller is emigrating and may be keen to get rid and do a deal. Anyway, called to arrange viewing and spoke to Paul, who is a friend of Allan the owner. Paul wrote the Apollo Duck advert for Allan since Allan is in his 70s and 'not good with computers'. Hence a few shaky details in the ad ('water clarifier') based on mishearings. Paul said Allan was abroad but would be back soon so we could arrange a viewing next week. Then I got a call from Allan Thursday morning, saying he'd just landed at 1am and hadn't slept but would be keen for me to come and see as soon as possible. Arranged to go at 2pm. Met Allan and he immediately wanted to get down to brass tacks: if I put a deposit down I could claim it straight away, he could wait a few months if I wanted to pay him something now and something later. A little odd, since I hadn't even mentioned the possibility of buying. I wanted to see the boat first, which seemed to me a sensible way to go about things. Had a good look around the outside, was encouraged to get down on my knees and feel the sides under the water line – very smooth indeed, no pitting. Didn't warm to the boat when I got on board. It looked tired and unloved, though very clean and neat. Allan talked a bit about the features and I asked if he had a recent survey. He dodged the question and said he'd get to that. At this point I should note that he seemed a little inflexible and unusual in his manners, so I thought best to let him give the tour and presentation as he'd obviously planned it all and get to the paperwork in his own time. At the engine room, things got a little vague regarding the current battery-charging set-up. The generator wasn't working but he was sure it was a simple fix, possibly an alternator brush, and there seemed some Heath Robinson setup that involved coupling the engine with the generator, which was connected to the Mastervolt battery charger (which I was informed no less than three times cost 'money'). When I tried to get a little clearer about the setup he did confirm that the batteries will charge directly from the engine at the moment. He has a bank of seven leisure batteries on a relay. He was in the middle of telling me about his licence and mooring, when I seized on a pause to ask about the diesel central heating (if this seems rude, there weren't many such pauses to seize upon). Did it work? The first answer was 'Yes', then after a couple more sentences about the licence it changed on reflection to 'It did when I last used it, but I prefer to use the stove'. I let him talk me through the paperwork without interruption, though this only consisted of his 'MOTs' going back many years. These were of course just the BSS certificates. I let him talk to see if he would get to my survey question as promised. It was never mentioned. So when it was clear that it wasn't going to come up without prompting, I asked again if he had one. No. Why? Because he's never needed it: he's had it for 17 years and knows that he's never scraped the bank and that he's always used the best paint for blacking (two pack). Could I get a survey done? Initial answer: if I pay for it. Since this wasn't as off-putting as he'd expected, this soon turned to: I don't want to take it all the way to Tarleton and get it out of the water, because it's due for blacking again and that would need doing. Then with the issue of a survey still hanging there, the price started to drop: he could do £32 for me if I was interested and gave him a deposit now. But that would mean no fussing about with an unnecessary survey. I asked him to confirm that he wouldn't have a survey done and he said yes. So I turned around and put my boots back on. The price went back up to £34 while I was putting on my boots, if I insisted on a survey. Would he agree to any repairs that might be necessary as found by a survey? Yes, but he knows it won't need any. Then: he would go halves with me in principle (if say it needed '£1000 of welding', he'd pay £500), although he knows it won't need anything doing at all. Once I was back on the bank a final offer of £31 came out, which was probably conditional on having no survey, though by that point the alarm bells were ringing quite loudly so I made my excuses and slipped away. Allan is quite a full-on character and it was only when I got away with my own thoughts that it struck me as odd that I'd got into negotiations over a survey when I didn't even know if I liked the boat. After some reflection I decided I just didn't like it enough as it was and there was too much slipperiness in answering questions for me to feel comfortable dealing with him anyway. But then I had a call this afternoon. Allan said he'd been thinking about the survey and could I call him back to discuss it. I said I was a little busy right then and left it there. Anyway, this turned into much more of a ramble about my viewing experience than intended. I wonder what folk think of this though. Do folk think I'm probably right to have lost all interest, or perhaps is there a good deal to be had here, since the owner clearly wants to sell up and emigrate. He told me it's getting too expensive to fly back and forth to Thailand, mentioned how eager he is to get out there permanently, and called me a few times on Thurs morning before I was able to answer and arrange the viewing. I get the impression I'm the only one who's been to see it so far.
  9. Good evening everybody. This is my first post here after joining so forgive me if my questions are a bit basic (or thick). I am serious about moving on to the water to live. It is something I have been wanting to do for a long time as bricks and mortar are not really for me. However I am a complete novice when it comes to the world of canal boats. I have been on them and even stayed on one before but I have never been involved in owning one or knowing anyone who has. And so before I buy a boat which I have seen I have a few basic questions relating to making a leisure boat suitable for living aboard, and please forgive me if these questions have been answered a thousand times before. And so in no particular order, if anyone could help me with these questions to start: Survey: Not knowing much about boats I assume it would be sensible of me to have the boat surveyed first, can anybody give me a rough idea of costs involved? (I was chatting to another boat owner when I went to view it and he had worked on the boat and said it was in really good order mechanically,had low hours on the engine, had recently been blacked, and had a long safety certificate etc... Plus he said it was the same owners for 14 years and they looked after it really well and this is reflected by the overall decent condition the boat was in when i viewed it) Electrics: The boat currently has a 12V system running the lights and a 12V fridge. As I have a small number of appliances which would require traditional mains sockets what would be the most cost effective solution to providing power for these? Batteries: The boat has been up for sale for quite a long time (over 9 months i think) and the owner only comes out every now and again to turn over the engine and occasionally take her out. Is there a simple way to check the state of the batteries or would I need to rely on a full survey? Hot Water: The hot water is currently supplied by this method: 'engine cooling water circuit is fitted to a vertical calorifier' - As i understand it I would need to run the engine every day for a couple of hours or so to provide hot water. What is the best/most cost effective alternative to this system so that I could have hot water without running the engine? Heating: The boat currently has a solid fuel stove which is connected to two radiators for heating. Is this the most effective way of heating the boat or are there better alternatives? These are the most basic questions I have at the moment and I would really appreciate any advice you all can give (after browsing the forum for a while I know that have more money is probably the most valuable advice). Finally, my plan is to be as independent as possible which means not using a residential mooring and so having limited access to on-shore power so any advice on starting up, converting a leisure boat to a live aboard or any other general advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for all your help Dave
  10. We’re selling our 43ft narrowboat to get something bigger. The buyer of our current boat wants a survey done (of course), however we’re still living / working from home on her and it will be our home until the sale goes through. Has anyone experienced this at all? I’m 6 months pregnant and it’s a national lock down, so just a little confused where I’m supposed to go for the whole day whilst this is happening. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.
  11. Hello there! I'm about to finally take the leap and buy my first time boat, a nice little 45ft steel hull fibreglass top thing with a lot of interior refitting needed as thieves gutted most of the insides. I'm thinking I want a survey on the hull just so I know how soon I'm going to have to do some serious work on it or whether I've got a few years left in the old girl. (it's from the 60s/70s) I've been led to believe replating costs about £3-5,000 ish around that size, please please correct me if I'm way off the mark. I'm in the Shipley/Saltaire/Bingley area and have got a quote from Bluestar surveys at £345 for a pre-purchase survey or £285 for a hull survey. I've also emailed Broadcut marine for a quote too. Does anyone know anything about these two? Is that a good price? Does anyone know any other recommended surveyors in the area? Any advice would be lovely. Thank you, Lucy ==
  12. Hello, I am new to boating and need advice about my first buy; I viewed a widebeam in mid July with the specifications listed below; I was about to have a survey done but got distracted by other boats; now about a month and a half later I am surprised to see that such boat is still available and hasnt been snapped up yet; I was thinking of having it surveyed now but the fact that a boat of that price and age hasnt been sold in 1.5 months makes me wonder what other potential buyers have been put off with Any advice gratefully received Regards Annalisa Price: £55,000 Designer: Paul Widdowson Builder: Allen Unwin Make: Paul Widdowson Model: 45 Widebeam Year constructed: 2010 Berths: 4 Engine : Barrus Shanks 35 HP (has done 2300 hours) Fuel type: Diesel Drive type: Shaft drive Length overall: 45' Beam: 10' Hull material: Steel Fuel capacity: 400 Litres Water capacity: 2500 Litres Walkthrough bathroom with cassette toilet and shower Multi fuel stove with back boiler providing heating to 2 radiators, gravity fed Hot water provided by calorifier or immersion heater. 8x6v 135ah batteries. 3kw pure sign wave sterling ch/inv.12 and 230v systems LED lighting Fully fitted kitchen including full size cooker, fridge and sink Washing machine
  13. Hello folks! I've been looking at these surveyors for y survey: Stephen Hands Michael Clarke Peter Tindall Ricky Tropman Jonathan Leask Iain Jones Any experience with them? Any other recommendations for the midlands? What can I expect from the survey? How long should it take? And cost for a 40 feet boat? Thanks a lot! Mattes
  14. Thinking ahead a little to the 30 year survey of my hull. At present it has a 2 pack epoxy zinc coating, 2 coats, onto bare steel and 6 to 8 coats of 2 pack epoxy black. This is all Sherwin Williams epoxy, originally from Leigh's paints of Bolton. The base plate is uncoated. This was done 20 years ago and apart from touching up scrapes it has had little attention over the years, just another coat of the black every 6 or 7 years. The coatings are in excellent condition with no flaking or bubbling. The zinc seems to be well bonded to the steel and has done a great job in preventing rusting. So when it comes to the insurance inspection I am loath to have to grind of loads of patches from the sides for the ultrasonic thickness test. The question is, can this testing be done without destroying the coatings? Has the equipment developed to the extent that it can test through the coatings?
  15. Hello, So I'm thinking of buying my first canal boat, and I'm a self confessed newbie and would really appreciate any advice. My reason for buying is I grew up on sailing boats and I love being on and around the water - this boat is currently docked in a marina in the city centre and why spend hundreds on a water front studio when I can stay on a lovely boat. I'd also love to meet the community and generally enjoy the lifestyle. The boat I'm looking at is valued last year at 35k for insurance purposes. It's 60ft from 1996. She was also shot blasted, 2-pack epoxy coated including base plate and had 12 new anodes fitted in 2018. So the boat was lifted out last year and they didn't get any work/plating done - the seller assures me that he wasn't told of any work that needed doing. We agreed on a price (aprrox 30k), with the agreement that I get a survey, and if there's any work that needs doing after the survey up to £2k, I'll split the cost here. If it's north of 2k, I'll get my 10% deposit back (which I haven't paid yet) and pull out of the sale because I would struggle to pay much more. The seller seems like a good character, and in the interest of a quick sale (he almost sold it in July and the buyer backed out last minute), he's knocked a further 2k off the price agreed if I do not get a survey and move in this month. Me, being in my 20s, I can't afford to buy this outright so I'll be getting a loan, so this is quite attractive. The present anodes will need to be replaced within 6-12 months, which will cost about 500 quid and need a lift out, so from that perspective it makes sense to get it lifted out for a survey now. On the other hand it would save me money on rent moving in quick, and over the summer I might put it on airbnb over the weekends whilst I'm off in my van rock climbing, which could allow me to live rent free for some of the year. Do you have any advice? Do you think the discount is a good one? Or do you think this is a massive alarm bell for issues underneath? Do you have any advice for ensuring I get my deposit back in the event of a no sale for the given terms? We've drafted a contract, but not through any official board so I don't know how to guarantee it's enforcement. From where I'm sat both ways have their own risks, so I'd be very grateful for any experienced folk to let me know what they'd do.
  16. Hi all, Myself and my partner have recently purchased a converted paddleboat - lovingly described as a 'shed' by our surveyor. It needs a lot of work, we were present for only the last half hour of the in water, pre-purchase survey as the guy turned up an hour and a half early and we live the opposite end of London. He was a recommendation of the estate agent (we knew at the time this was probably a bad idea but didn't know the first thing about finding someone ourselves) and he seemed like a nice chap. He patiently answered any questions we had and was very honest about the condition of the boat; the hull was fine but everything above that needed work! Fast-forward to now, over a month and a half later and we have found two square feet of rusty sludge in middle of the hull. Floorboards had been covered with insulation and mdf laminate so there was nowhere for any water to go. Unsure of how to proceed, we turned to consult our survey report only to discover it still hadn't been emailed to us. After a few days of nagging, we finally received it earlier today. It is literally ten bullet points that were clearly copied from the surveyor's very basic notes (spelling mistakes and all). Is this what you get for £300??? We were at least expecting thorough ultrasound readings. The report reads '5. Hull 4.7 to water line good to 4.5 good' Is this typical? Would be grateful for any info! Thanks, Naive
  17. Hi all - I’ve never contributed to a discussion here but I’ve always found this forum really informative. Apologies if the question below appears in another thread, but I couldn’t find it anywhere! Any help would be much appreciated! We’re looking at buying a Springer stern cruiser, but are concerned about the quality of the steel. We’ve put in a deposit but want to have a survey before completing the buy. We’re concerned that if we lift it out of the water for a survey it won’t survive (ie it might be so thin already it gets damaged while taking it out). so the question: if the boat is damaged while taking it out of the water, who is liable to pay? Us, the current owners, or the surveyors?
  18. I need to have my potential new boat (60ft by 10ft) lifted out for a survey and ideally (but not critically) for blacking and anodes asap. The ideal would be somewhere on the Stort or the Lee, the boat is at present on the Stort, any info or help would be very gratefully received
  19. My partner and i recently bought a 55ft narrow boat which we are going live on. Because it was the first time we were buying a boat, we thought we'd make sure everything was checked out by professionals and used a broker. In particular, we ordered a full pre purchase survey which showed up some minor problems which didn't seem too worrying. The vendor agreed to fix any problems arising from the survey which were related to the safety of the boat (BSS). We also got the engine serviced professionally. We now feel rather disappointed (and a little bit cheated) because the broker told us (1) the boat had been blacked last year, (2) the engine was serviced last year. The boat looked like it needed blacking and the person we asked to put three coats of paint on the boat told us "there is no way this boat was blacked last year". It turns out the engine was serviced by the owner rather than professionally. A few points were raised that had to be fixed for the boat to be BSS compliant. The vendor asked an engineer to ensure the boat complied with the BSS. Both the broker and the surveyor confirmed that the work had been carried out adequately. We have now started moving onto the boat and found that some of the work had not been carried out or had been done badly (e.g. just drilling big holes through the floor to fit a cable). We also found that the survey missed some defects (such as a leaky accumulator). Finally, on our first trip, our gearbox (PRM 120 mechanical) was destroyed by the drive plate because the drive plate that was installed wasn't compatible. Do we just have to accept all these problems, suck it up, pay to fix everything and move on, or is there something else we can do? Is this a common problem with brokers?
  20. Hello there! I am a friendly masters student doing a study of the boat communities on Regent's Canal in London. I'm interested in people's experiences living on boats and their opinion on the maintenance of the canal these days. This research will NOT be published and participants' names will not be used in the report. Please comment here/PM if you are interested in participating or share the post if you know someone mooring in the areas stated above Many thanks, Mandy
  21. Hi, I'm new to the forum and unfortunately I have a question and need help already! (BTW this forum has been invaluable when we have been researching- so thank you to those that keep it running.) The boat (2001) we just got surveyed has come up with a good hull (somethings to put on the 'to-do' list but nothing to worry too much about). However, the engine (beta- 28) is leaking- oil and water, and the thermostat (I forget the name of it- though it was the thing that is connected to the engine to tell you how hot the engine runs) has been disconnected. The suggestions made were that this engine could take between £1000 and a £a-new-engine to fix. This is our first boat, and so we would like to ask do you think it is worth continuing with the sale, in a similar situation would people usually walk away when confronted with replacing an engine? In your experience, is it best to have the brokerage deal with fixing this issue before we proceed with purchasing, or should we negotiate on the price and then find our own place to have her fixed? On the brokerage website it states that boats will be repaired following a survey- and that if we put in a lower than asking price offer (which we did- £2000) lower than the repairs- if they fall within that range will be up to us to cover. So if the repair costs £2000 they say that the owner has already paid that by accepting the lower offer. But, that's crazy because we put in an offer of what we were happy to pay for the boat- not what amount we were hoping to repair!!! Arrrr! Many many thanks for any replies Anna
  22. Notice Alert Shropshire Union Canal Starts At: Bridge 104, Calveley Turnover Bridge Ends At: Bridge 1, Roving Bridge Tuesday 10 October 2017 07:00 until Monday 6 November 2017 17:00 Type: Navigation Restriction Reason: 3rd Party Works Original message: Third party contractors will be carrying out vegetation and survey works alongside the canal. Some works will be carried out from the towpath and via a remote-control survey craft. Warning signs will be displayed and banksmen will be on the towpath All traffic should slow down, approach with caution and be prepared to stop if requested. Short delays may be necessary for contractors to move to allow you to pass. Banksmen and warning signs will be in place. You can view this notice and its map online here: https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notice/11639/between-bridge-104-calveley-turnover-bridge-su-037-003-and-bridge-1-roving-bridge-sm-016-010 You can find all notices at the url below: https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/notices
  23. Hi everyone, I'm looking to buy a boat that was recently surveyed in London. It was surveyed by a previous potential buyer who decided not to go ahead following the survey - so I'm already cautious and not rushing into anything. I'm looking to get the boat surveyed myself and the previous potential buyer has kindly offered to let me see the survey in the meantime. However, they have provided the survey via the seller who is not letting me view it before meeting with him to discuss it together - all sounding alarm bells to me! He has suggested that the surveyor in question is not well trusted in London, and has in-fact been black listed by many and can often make the boat appear to be in worse repair than it actually is. I don't want to name names to cause any problems but would appreciate your advice. Are there any surveyors in London you would highly recommend, or would you avoid and why? Thanks.
  24. Following on from my topic Excited and nervous. http://canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic/90599-excited-and-nervous/#comment-1979651 After we last posted in that topic we came to a satisfactory agreement with the vendors and had the boat surveyed etc... The survey threw up quite a lot more immediate jobs than we had expected and overall wasn't great but even the surveyor said that for its age the hull was remarkably good and he recommended that we re negotiate as our needs in a boat are very specific and as said before this one matched us perfectly. So as we no longer wanted to proceed at the previous offer price the broker insisted that we get our deposit back and it goes back on the market whilst we try to negotiate further. wasn't particularly worried about that as i said in previous topic the boat had been there since December and nobody else had shown the slightest interest so what were the chances of someone coming along now? We entered re negotiations and it was looking quite positive as the vendors agreed to go down and see the boat for the first time in a long time so that they could see what the surveyor had pointed out and to fix a few BSC issues. Then got the bad news yesterday that someone else is showing strong interest and so the vendors want to wait to hear from them before they consider our reduced offer. The ironic thing is that as we need a boat with an office 95% of the boats that we look at are 2 bedrooms that we will have to convert but this particular one needs no conversion, however the new people interested are looking for a 2 bedroom boat and want to convert this one! i just cant believe the irony of the fact that what they want is mostly what we have to consider but they would rather have something that needs converting into them! they are only interested apparently because they wanted a boat built by this builder but couldn't wait to get up the waiting list meaning that they obviously have a much larger budget than us. Also they are going to spend what is probably going to be the next 4 weeks getting quotes for the conversion before deciding weather or not they want to proceed So the dilemma is; I see 2 ways of proceeding either put in one final offer and say look the cash is here ready to go but we are not prepared to wait untill these other people have decided. Or wait 4 ish weeks to see what these people want to do then you can decide if its worth the risk of them also having a survey. What would you do in this situation? *frustrated rant over and out lol*
  25. I Recently wrote a post trying to determine the builder of a boat I was interested in buying. Turns out it was most likely a colecraft (I emailed pictures accross to them), it also had just a 6mm baseplate but I wasn't worried about that. The surveyor had a look at the hull today...and I'm now a little worried about that 6mm baseplate Turns out the sides are generally ok with some slightly thinner bits on waterline (as expected). Though since 1984 the baseplate (having never been balcked) has slowly been corroding and now it has widespread pitting on two thirds of the baseplate though is better at the front. The worst areas were found to have been 4.2 and 3.2, leaving at worst case 1.2mm of steel . The surveyor recommended overplating 2/3rds of the baseplate and if the sellers account for this and co-operate with the boatyard for the repair costs then I've no problem and would still buy the boat as I like it quite alot. I'd probably put some of my money in to plating the bow end baseplate also just to make it a complete job and put my mind at ease. If they don't I will obviously walk and shrug off the survey costs as 'one of those really annoying things that can't be helped'. I thinks this definitely goes to show however that it is absolutely, 100% worth blacking a baseplate, as there can be no doubt they corrode, (albeit over a long time). I just wondered people's thoughts on the situation, would you take the same stance as me, as long as the sellers come down and overplating is done well then it should all be happy days!?...shouldn't it? Any views appreciated :-) Pete
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