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Totally agree with all that. But just get another alias and use that if you really want to read the12V group. It will drive you demented though as the majority of posts are short on detail and badly informed. Unlike here the format is horrendous and I find it really difficult to find decent content in amongst the dross. I'm probably too short on patience to learn to operate the platform....

I've just ordered a drop in battery with the Overkill wossname in it too, and I too was planning to set all my own voltages etc. But I will also fit an isolator switch like in the boat I recently sold and monitor it manually as the main control. The BMS will just supervise and step in if it decides I'm not paying attention.

Interestingly this philosophy is widely understood by engineers but by very few others, politicians especially not. The MAIB investigations subscribe to this principle, being very careful to just describe what happened and not to point fingers. Also it appears to have a special status where it cannot be used in a court of law as evidence to prosecute IIRC, specifically to support the need to 'understand what happened' without the worry that the investigators write could get called as expert witnesses and ripped to bits by a clever lawyer. There is a similar board for air accidents AIUI.

Definition of an oxymoron: Noun. Someone who didn't go to Cambridge. 🤣

Oh thanks. I'm in that already. It's a right bear garden. There are a couple of groups devoted specifically to LiFePO4 bat trees. I wondered if one of those was any better.

I agree it seems to be gaining currency as THE way to do it. The assembled experts on here have regularly condemned it as stoopid but the tens of thousands of cheapo drop-in lithium batteries being sold these days all appear to do it, most using that ubiquitous Overkill BMS, and no problems seem to get reported. P.S. Got a link to the FB group you are seeing this on, please?

Shud'a spelled it "Lorry"!

And they talk funny. Like the French and that Sturgeon woman, I think they do lots of things differently specifically to be different. What is it they say about the USA and us? "Two nations divided by a common language"?

Not only that but they call petrol "gas". Even more confusion for me! I wonder what they call, actual, real, gas....

No, it's just what bureaucrats do. It's in their DNA to write ever more regulations to prevent imagined risks. Especially when funded with OPM. After all, who can possibly argue for 'less safety'? "Better safety" is always a good thing whatever the cost, Shirley. I'd love to see the stats on boat accidents injuring passers-by before and after the BSS was introduced. I doubt there was any reduction in an already vanishingly small number of cases, but I'd be delighted to see some actual facts.

Can you just do the whole of the internet for me please, when you get a minute? This would save me the trouble of sending you the links.... 👍

I see. Last time I had a petrol vehicle the tank filler was just as big as a diesel, but this must have been 20 years ago. Getting back to the point though, if they have to design fillers to prevent to wrong pump nozzle being used, filler labels must be insufficient and don't work. So given we know this, why does the BSS mandate them? A pointless regulation.

I fixed a boiler a few years ago for a teacher at home during the school day. I commented on this and she said she'd taken the day off because of the snow. I was all like, WTF, looking out the window, no snow! She explained "Yes but it's cold, so it might snow"...

Half an inch of snow and Wales seizes up. Truly the english are invading there!

Excellent, thanks. You make a GREAT link reader, so I don't have to do it!

And they don't work with Lithium, I would imagine. Or do they?

This should be true, but I don't think this is. If it were true, firms like this would not exist. https://www.wrongfuel-recovery.co.uk/ "Have you just put the wrong fuel in your car? Don't panic, we can help. 0800 772 3842"

I believe everything I read on the internet, about 'spoons...

That's just a courtesy I'd say. Or is it an MOT fail if not marked?

Given the reputations of both, I've never had a meal in either. Worst I've ever had has been The Boat House in Braunston. Again, warm (rather than hot) chicken, and inedible steak. Their beer is ok, their food most definitely not. Risky at best.

I knew that. I was trying to under-exaggerate...

I'd say several of the posts about stove runaway are incorrect. My own experience and definition of stove runaway (twice) is when the stove gets hot and the flue pull gets strong enough to overcome all the rope seals etc with EVERY VENT CLOSED. When this happens the stove gets hotter and hotter and there is nothing the boater can do to stop it and reverse the process other than smothering the fire, or, simply putting the chimney cap on! Last time I had it I was boating in weather like today, five degrees below zero and just as it was getting dark. I had the doors closed behind me and the slide drawn up close and I was marvelling at how warm I felt. Then I thought WTF and slid the hatch open and looked down. In the gloom inside the back cabin I could see the whole of the top of the Epping glowing medium red. Heart-stopping moment!! Ok I has actually left the tiny ash pan door ajar and forgotten whilst getting on with winter boating. I won't do THAT again....

Sort of correct, but if a boater forgets to paint their boat name and reg number on the side, CRT excuse them from needing the stifficate or a license, and they CAN do the boating, I happen to notice. And don't call me a barrel guvner.

A rip off on both sides. The boaters get ripped off for pointless examinations which concentrate on trivia, and the examiners get ripped off for £5k to get the ticket to carry out the inspections AND they have to pay something like £35 to 'register' each 'certificate' they issue. At Gas Safe Register, we all feel totally ripped off having to pay £2.60 to register each installation. BSS are really avin a larf.