alan_fincher

Fair comment, but the only one i could see at £500, to include a gearbox.

Is that the SL2? If so, they list as having just 9.5 HP - that is decidedly inadequate for a full sized Large Woolwich, even on a canal, let alone on a River. I don't recall ever seeing a working H series engine with gearbox below £2K - if it were I'd expect it to be in fairly poor condition.

I also don't know the detail, but you are correct that it is a very recent renovation. It looked very smart. Thank you Graham - a sensible number in my view. In the past when close to the "magic" 100, it has all felt a bit unmanagable.

It sounds "unusual" to me, and frankly far from suitable. However this Wikipedia suggests they were a thing, but also seems to question if any were ever built.

Even "fit a new cabin range" is a bit of a challenge at the moment. I'm not aware of anybody supplying new ones suitable for use in the back cabin of a motor, and spares seem very difficult for a used one. That sounds a bit optimistic. I've not seen evidence of Lister H series engines in good order for as little money as that, and you are definitely going to need a new prop, which don't come cheaply in sizes suitable for those Listers

That's one hell of a crazy advert. It seems to be suggesting that working boats had only one of two possible outcomes - either they were repossessed and taken to the Wendover arm prior to disposal, or they were amongst those scuttled by BW in Harefield flash. Apparently, also this was the one Town class boat not built from scratch with a steel bottom.... I suspect that the £35K price, whilst it sounds low, is far from a bargain.

Because Braunston Marina own the event, so they can set the rules. To some extent that must be down to what they think will bring in the cash.

Not a very close replica as it is steel not wood. Also the original was not a narrow beamed boat of 7' or less, I believe. I think it was decidedly more than 7 feet.

\for the Wirking Boat anoraks amongst you, it has been noted that there are at least 11 "Large Northwich" motor boats present. Considering when they were built, back around 1936, only 38 were made in total, that really is a quite surprising result. Flamingo (ex Letchworth) Nuneaton Nutfield Otley Paddingon Purton Renfrew Stanton Tadworth Towcester Whitby

At a variety of prices at different times I think. I was speaking yesterday with someone who tried to strike a deal on it, and says they ended up only £3K away from what the seller was prepared to go to. Having failed to buy it, (and subsequently bought a full length boat), he says Tycho eventually changed hands at less than he would have paid. It's a strange old world buying and selling "historics".

I couldn't possibly comment!

It is indeed, although I'm not sure it is £58,000 nice. What intrigues me is that if the latest survey is from 2009, is it actually possible to get full comprehensive cover based on a 14 year old survey. The best I have managed to find is where the survey is no more than 10 years old.

Indeed, although I am guessing BELFAST may still be some way from being water-tight. There are a fair number of historics already here, but an awful lot still needed to meet the numbers suggested to me by the organisers a few days ago.

It is, I think, somewhat of a tradition that a thread is created for this event each year it is held. I may have missed it, but can't find anything using Forum search. So I'll kick this one off, but I'm happy to have it merged with any existing thread(s) should it be a duplicated. So who is going to be there please? We look forward to meeting anybody who is.

Excellent reply from the Monkey. I think there is more than a little potential for cross wires because if the use if the term "Tarmac" I can't immediately think of any Tarmac towpaths, but can think of very many miles using the Self Binding approach. If Richard has taken the term Tarmac literally, then Cathy may not have got the answer s thinks she has.

Fraid not. Plus I already have an HA3 in the garage if I should want to deliver more grunt than the HA2 already fitted.

I have already been told in no uncertain terms whatsoever that it is an absolute NO! Shame really, but I think pushing my luck would result in having nobody to crew it with. As you suggest, this alongside the one I currently own are my two all time favourite tugs.

The engine names like Merganser (an AS2) and Peregrine (an AS3) were the results of the Parsons Engine Co Ltd taking Armstrong Siddeley engines, mating them with their own manufactured gearboxes, and reselling under the Parsons brand, A 1957 BW record card for our SICKLE shows it as having been pitted with the Parsons Merganser engine. The fitted gearbox was the Parson's type F. I'm fairly certain I have seen the manual for the Parsons type F gearbox available online.

Yes, that is certainly an equiry worth making, I would say.

And, (stating the bloomin obvious), provided there is space to fit a larger replacement.

https://narrowboats.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/harland-and-wolff-large-woolwich-for-sale/733508

If you mean boat safety scheme certificate, these last 4 years. So you will need ti have passed another one before 01/06/2024.

From what I have seen, this is I think a fairly long running issue, but, (and I could be wrong), I think it has not blocked navigation completely. I think that when an engineer has been present they can probably override things and get boats through. However i think I saw that the engineers have to travel a long way, (somewhere like Nottingham possibly, but that's just a stab at what I think I saw). if you are coming from Teddington, I suspect it will be back in action before then. That assumes it doesn't break again, of course! Edited to add: Looking at the stoppage notice it was declared fixed, with the canal open, yesterday 9/6/23...... .... only to be declared broken again the same day. So, presumably, some boats made ot through as recently as yesterday.....

An excellent suggestion!

With hindsight it should have been left there so nothing other than narrow beam craft could pass through!