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Could be the reverse. Double the licence fee and get a refund according to the distance you travel ................ Oh hush my mouth!

This is for any ex teachers who remember Oxford Reading Tree : Actually it's Bearmingham

Que?

What a brilliant, succinct and accurate statement.

Mm mm didn't 'this guy' argue that it was because he was trying to be a responsible partner/parent he was staying where he was? That hardly supports your argument (which I do understand is only your interpretation) that he was, 'putting his neck on the line' . He may be one or the other but he can't be both. So far as the 'reasonable' argument goes, of course 6 months is not reasonable, but then it's not reasonable for CRT to take 6 months to sort out the concern either. If they allow a situation to continue for this length of time they have sent out a subliminal message that it is OK to take as long as it takes to get moving. Problem is no one can see in advance how long something will take to sort. There is nothing that galvanises action quite so quickly as the thought of a financial hit. Perhaps all overstaying should incur an overstaying charge, payable 1 month before the boat is due to be re licensed, but with the charge cancelled if the boat is back cruising and spotted within 28 days of the concern first being noted?

Not to mention the balsa wood and tissue paper gliders and the 'dope' to strengthen them. Easy to get a legal high in those days!

At the risk of sending the OP to sleep, in which case I expect to get 'ZZZZZ' at the very least, is there a consensus of views on here of what we feel ought to be an acceptable cruising pattern/ range /distance? Perhaps we could set up a bidding system and CRT could simply take the best 3,000 offers and give those the ' CC' licence. The rest of us would have to find a mooring. To make it 'reasonable in the circumstances' each bid must specify the Canal, the state of the navigation, the likelihood of stoppages, the time of year, the number of hire boat bases ...... Mmm having second thoughts about posting this, CRT might just think it a good idea.

CHOCOLATE

Well it be the old home of Berkhampstead Boats, they were the ones named after TS Eliots cats. They have a giant Orang Utan in a conservatory. Not sure what that has to do with Banbury and a Oxford though, unless I'm making a connection that was not intended from the OP

I apologise in advance for this ... Perhaps she's a floating voter.

There's an interesting doc a friend pointed me towards called Policy Advice Note 2009 published jointly by the Town and Country Planning Association together with BW. It says 'Inland waterways are public assets and are generally easily accessible. The majority of people using the waterways and towing paths do so free of charge as a ‘means to an end’ or for informal recreation purposes. New waterside development and regeneration schemes are the primary generators for the growth of users. For example, 47% of the population lives within 8 kilometres (5 miles) of a waterway owned and managed by British Waterways, with nearly 1 million people living within 100 metres. This network attracts approximately 270 million visits per year, with over 93% of visitors being ‘everyday explorers’ – using the canal towing path to take a short cut; to walk the dog or cycle to school, home or work; as lunchtime amenity space; or for recreational walking and cycling' It goes on to day that 93% of users are these everyday explorers and that 7% only are passionate enthusiasts, ie boaters fishermen and activity seekers. Must be tricky for CRT as only 4% of their customers are the paying kind.

Town and Country Act 1990

The cunning thing is that CRT don't ask those who take up a winter mooring if the boat is their main or sole residence, but they absolutely should be telling all those who take winter mooring that they must not live there, as this would be against the law.

For anyone who has been inspired to find out a bit more about the strategic importance of this part of England during WW2 you might enjoy a recent book by Paul Brown, The Secrets of Q Central: How Leighton Buzzard Shortened the Second World War. This book suggests that Bletchley Park was just an outpost, and that none of the top brass really expected that the secrets of enigma would be cracked, so the film probably got that bit right, in that Turig was tolerated rather than encouraged. If anyone has cruised the Wendover Arm, think how close that is to RAF Halton, the air base to which the US President flies. Just a few miles from Chequers. It's rumoured that there is a network of bunkers under the Chiltern hills in the Wendover area.

I'll need to be convinced that it should be the norm. It's always courtesy to ask to go across onto another boat as you would have to breast up, that's why the signs are so useful. But as has been said, you can easily make your own.

Yep. Moor at Fenny Stratford and take the local train, about one an hour I think, it's London Midland I believe, Bletchley to Bedford line. Or you could go to Gulliver's Land if you have small children, not far from Cambell Park in Milton Keynes.

Perfectly readable. Thanks. Feel really part of the club now, got an email today telling us we had been 'sighted' at locality and that it 'appeared' we had been there for more than 14 days. Rang the number and agreed that their information was perfectly accurate, BECAUSE THAT IS OUR HOME MOORING! You really can't make this stuff up.

Agree with all of this. Appreciation of Nigel's comments and patience with those if us struggling to understand, and also share Arthur's experience of T&C's relating to employment law, which as he explained are essentially, accept or leave. To ask a supplementary, is anyone ( Nigel) able to say when the 14 day rule came in. I was once told this went back to the days of the poor law and vagrancy and the notion that residency in a parish for more than 14 days meant that parish became responsible for the welfare of that person. Currently I understand that the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 might act as an additional driver, in that any structure used as a main or sole residence that stays in one spot for more than 28 days in any calendar year must have planning permission. This fits neatly with an outward journey staying in one spot for 14 days and on a return journey staying in the same spot for a further 14 days.

I know I am being pedantic, but where in the Act does it say I can 'keep' a boat as a benefit conferred by a licence?

OK. That's pretty clear. So what does the licence entitle me to, once I've got it?

Not sure anyone answered this directly, but kind of got the impression that the feeling was in answer to qu 1 that I ought to be if I comply with the 2 conditions of having insurance and a BSS. Certificate, but that I could happily ignore any others. But on the other hand CRT do appear to have a statutory right to impose No answer to Qu 2 No answer to qu 3 So here's another ..... What is the legal status of this GENERAL TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR BOAT LICENCES In accordance with S43(3) of the Transport Act 1962, boat licences are subject to the conditions which apply to the use of a boat on any waterway which we own or manage. These are necessary to protect third parties and to help us manage the waterways well for the benefit of all our users. Numbered paragraphs below are legally binding general conditions. If you breach any of these, we are entitled to terminate your Licence and you could face legal action, which may result in the removal of your boat from our waterways. We will not issue a licence for a Powered Boat to anyone under 18 years old. Please note that it is also a criminal offence to use or keep a boat on our waterways without a licence. What does ' legally binding' mean?

Am I entitled to a boat licence or am I permitted to have one providing I contract to abide by the Terms and Conditions? Am I entitled to determine my own Terms and Conditions? Are CRT, by law, entitled to impose Terms and Conditions? If, mid-licence, those Terms and Conditions really change, as opposed to look as if they have changed because different words have been used and the position has been clarified, am I actually required to abide by the new Terms and Conditions, or can I claim that the previous ones should pertain throughout the period of the licence?

Cunard? Didn't they build Titanic? When we had ours built by Colecraft, Sam told us this story. When he started he had no more than a farmers field, so built the first boat for sale on this field. the buyer came to see progress and asked the question a great many novices will, 'how do you know it won't leak?' Sam said he knew, but would prove it. He told the guy to come back the following week. It took 5 days to get about a foot if water into the boat using a hose running several hours a day. When the guy returned he examined every seam and went away satisfied. Sam then drilled hole in the base plate to empty out again! Still don't know whether I believe the story. If anyone has had another boat builder tell the same tale I'll know for sure.