Arthur Marshall Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Part of the flue collar where the flue meets the stove has disintegrated. Somewhere I've seen a repair gizmo that clamps round it so i can make sure it's sealed ok, but I can't find it again. Any clues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Personally given the risk of CO and the heat involved which precludes the use of most expoxys I'd be looking to replace the part properly rather than attempting a repair What type of stove is it? Do you have a pic of what's broken? Cheers Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted March 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) Personally given the risk of CO and the heat involved which precludes the use of most expoxys I'd be looking to replace the part properly rather than attempting a repair What type of stove is it? Do you have a pic of what's broken? Cheers Gareth It's a Puffin, I think. It's the fitting at the top of the fire that the flue sits in - part (not all) of it has just disintegrated with combined heat and rust. The seal's still ok at the moment, it just needs some more metal round it to hold the fire cement. Edited March 19, 2016 by Arthur Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frangar Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 It's a Puffin, I think. It's the fitting at the top of the fire that the flue sits in - part (not all) of it has just disintegrated with combined heat and rust. The seal's still ok at the moment, it just needs some more metal round it to hold the fire cement. Think I'd still be tempted to replace.....I suppose you could source a new fitting.....cut it in half and then weld it back together in situ to save disturbing the rest of the flue....or as a very temporary measure use a big jubilee clip or similar banding......I think that or a similar "temporary" repair might well fail a BSC inspection. Cheers Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizzard Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 A temporary botch could be effected if you have a piece of thin sheet metal, steel, brass, aluminium. Snip to width and about 4'' oversize in length. Bend it around the collar and bend outwards the ends like tabs and punch or drill a couple or three holes through them. Slap a good helping of Silicon, fire cement, Gun Gum ect on it, like a Kaolin Poltice and apply around the wound and secure up tight with screws and nuts through the holes to squeeze the Goo up into the wound. Finish by filling and smearing more goo into any gaps and again after the fires been lit. Then get a new collar as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted March 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 On the Puffin, the collar is welded onto the stove. To fit a new one I'd have to cut the rest of it off - how do you then secure the new collar? Is it bolted on or just sealed? I'm not absolutely sure that I really need to do this and that some additional steel bolted round it won't be enough. it's only the top inch of the collar that's completely gone, and it's more that it's split as it's thinned and the fire cement has expanded - there's only a 5mm gap, if that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinl Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 Is this collar the bit you need? As it's sold as a spare are you sure it's welded in. K http://www.aradastovesandspares.com/category_list.php?brand=VIL&brandname=Villager Stove Spares&stovetype=M&category=MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Smith Posted March 20, 2016 Report Share Posted March 20, 2016 the new collar will have to be welded on. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Is this collar the bit you need? As it's sold as a spare are you sure it's welded in. K http://www.aradastovesandspares.com/category_list.php?brand=VIL&brandname=Villager Stove Spares&stovetype=M&category=MS That bit doesn't fit, apparently. But a good site, so thanks - very helpful people. It seems the collar twists on with a couple of lugs rather than being welded, and they may have spares as long as mine isn't a weird size which was made specifically for Midland Chandlers... Which I suspect mine was. Hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Is this collar the bit you need? As it's sold as a spare are you sure it's welded in. K http://www.aradastovesandspares.com/category_list.php?brand=VIL&brandname=Villager Stove Spares&stovetype=M&category=MS Accopding to the maker, none of the Puffins had the collar welded on, so it's probably just rust and about fifteen odd years of usage makes it look that way. They're sending a new collar and it'll be interesting to see if it fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I've got a new collar and cut the old one off. Is the new one better sealed on with fire cement or silicone fire stuff? Or both? I have a tube of it from Envirograf which says tsted to BS476 part 2, flexibility retained from -40C to 1200C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Smith Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Did the maker say how they fix them on. Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Marshall Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Did the maker say how they fix them on. Neil Not yet, might phone them up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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