Doorman Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Returning to an earlier comment, how do the Brazilians overcome these inherent problems encountered with the use of biodiesel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac of Cygnet Posted August 11, 2013 Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 Lots and lots of info here: http://www.lowimpact.org/factsheet_biodiesel.htm I cannot vouch for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ships Cat Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Returning to an earlier comment, how do the Brazilians overcome these inherent problems encountered with the use of biodiesel? These above problems (cold starting, pump failure, filter bunging up) happen with SVO (straight veg oil) and WVO (waste veg oil - recovered). Suspect the biodiesel in Brazil is Ethanol from sugar cane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorman Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 These above problems (cold starting, pump failure, filter bunging up) happen with SVO (straight veg oil) and WVO (waste veg oil - recovered). Suspect the biodiesel in Brazil is Ethanol from sugar cane? I believe you could be right Ships Cat, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ships Cat Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) Sno prob, Doorman. I think the confusion is common, and distinctions are muddied. I don't think you can grow enough sugar cane to provide Ethanol for the rest of the planet any more than the planet can spare land to do it with rapeseed for SVO either. Algae is the only way to go, and they've just about cracked it, it's about surface area and large areas are easily achievable, they defo have the algae producing fuel. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19826595.900-algae-oil-promises-truly-green-fuel.html Find a subscriber so you can read the whole article - I'm not at the mo (sadly, no funds). and http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21028075.300-a-single-source-for-clean-water-and-fuel.html and http://www.newscientist.com/gallery/biofuels In fact New Scientist is a pukka site to wander round. Edited August 12, 2013 by Ships Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorman Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Sno prob, Doorman. I think the confusion is common, and distinctions are muddied. I don't think you can grow enough sugar cane to provide Ethanol for the rest of the planet any more than the planet can spare land to do it with rapeseed for SVO either. Algae is the only way to go, and they've just about cracked it, it's about surface area and large areas are easily achievable, they defo have the algae producing fuel. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19826595.900-algae-oil-promises-truly-green-fuel.html Find a subscriber so you can read the whole article - I'm not at the mo (sadly, no funds). and http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21028075.300-a-single-source-for-clean-water-and-fuel.html and http://www.newscientist.com/gallery/biofuels In fact New Scientist is a pukka site to wander round. Very interesting reading and evidence of man's and woman's ability to evolve in order to sustain mobility via the combustion engine. Thanks again! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchcrawler Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 These above problems (cold starting, pump failure, filter bunging up) happen with SVO (straight veg oil) and WVO (waste veg oil - recovered). Suspect the biodiesel in Brazil is Ethanol from sugar cane? You mean they dont all make it in their garden sheds and take it in buckets to the Co-op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smelly Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Brazil uses methanol to replace petrol; grown from sugar cane, rathet than biodiesel produced from the various veg oils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Payne Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 My two pennies! I have used various oils in the past in car engines, you must have the correct type of fuel pump, on a car it was the Bosch, anything made by Lucas will end in tears, maybe not at first but give it time and it will go pete tong! I have used Cod liver oil, Evening primrose oil, Shark liver oil, Flaxseed oil and even flavoured oils such as lemon oil, orange oil and fruits of the forest oil... If it had oil it in i would pour it in. In the winter you are advised to mix with Diesel or petrol to thin it out, i have used neat all through the winter of 2011/2012 but only due to commuting 240 miles a day for work, starting the engine was hard, most mornings i had to jump start it. For me it was worth it, i covered over 30k miles in 6 months and would never have been able to afford the fuel, but it caused some issues with my old BMW and in the end did go boom in a big way. Knowing what i know, i would not run a narrowboat engine on the stuff, its just not worth the hassle. Plus it gets everywhere and smells, trying to keep things clean when using oil is not easy! Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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