floor paint for painting boat roof.

[c c]

Use this.

 

http://www.johnstonestrade.com/product-range/product.aspx?product=Red_Oxide_Paint

 

(Or scumble it)

 

Regards A

 

EDIT TO ADD:

This is not red oxide primer. It is a topcoat.

They don't call it gloss because it dries dries eggshell.

 

I've been worrying the life out of the nice people at the local Johnstones in Rugby saying "I read it on a forum - you sell an eggshell finish Red Oxide, not a zinc primer, just what I need for Badsey's roof"

No we don't - we sell a gloss - look - it says gloss on the side of the can".

(yes it does - in small print).

So question is do I spend £24 on 2 1/2 Litres (far more than I need for Badsey's upper parts) of Johnstones gloss in the firm knowledge that it realy does dry as eggshell?

[andywatson]

I've been worrying the life out of the nice people at the local Johnstones in Rugby saying "I read it on a forum - you sell an eggshell finish Red Oxide, not a zinc primer, just what I need for Badsey's roof"

No we don't - we sell a gloss - look - it says gloss on the side of the can".

(yes it does - in small print).

So question is do I spend £24 on 2 1/2 Litres (far more than I need for Badsey's upper parts) of Johnstones gloss in the firm knowledge that it realy does dry as eggshell?

 

I had a similar but the reverse experience at the Derby branch of Johnstones. I asked for red oxide gloss and they replied that they didn't sell it. When I asked about the red oxide paint they told me that it was labelled red oxide paint (not gloss) in the large letters on the front of the can because it soon went eggshell. I thought it was splitting hairs but used it anyway and found it did indeed go eggshell.

 

Anyway it's good stuff so splash out the £24.

[madcat]

well as it happens I just bought 2.5l today and I dont mind one bit if it turns out a bit glossy ,whats the thing with eggshell anyway.Personally anything is better than dirty salmon pink and I am hoping that the new paint will be a good rich non sickly colour with a bit of shine to it.will report back next week when Ive painted the roof.

[Chertsey]

I've been worrying the life out of the nice people at the local Johnstones in Rugby saying "I read it on a forum - you sell an eggshell finish Red Oxide, not a zinc primer, just what I need for Badsey's roof"

No we don't - we sell a gloss - look - it says gloss on the side of the can".

(yes it does - in small print).

So question is do I spend £24 on 2 1/2 Litres (far more than I need for Badsey's upper parts) of Johnstones gloss in the firm knowledge that it realy does dry as eggshell?

No, buy the zinc phosphate 'primer'. It's definitely less glossy than the gloss. And it is impervious and hardwearing.

[andywatson]

No, buy the zinc phosphate 'primer'. It's definitely less glossy than the gloss. And it is impervious and hardwearing.

 

Oh dear.

 

OK. call Johnstones (01924 354100) and ask for Hellen in Technical Dept.

See what she says about the permeability of primer.

[gary4lw]

Oh dear.

 

OK. call Johnstones (01924 354100 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 01924 354100 end_of_the_skype_highlighting) and ask for Hellen in Technical Dept.

See what she says about the permeability of primer.

 

Good lad !!!!!

[RLWP]

Oh dear.

 

OK. call Johnstones (01924 354100 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 01924 354100 end_of_the_skype_highlighting) and ask for Hellen in Technical Dept.

See what she says about the permeability of primer.

 

Good lad !!!!!

 

Are you a Skype user by any chance Gary?

 

Richard

[smileypete]

No, buy the zinc phosphate 'primer'. It's definitely less glossy than the gloss. And it is impervious and hardwearing.

How many coats do you use, and is that over bare metal or other paint?

 

Also do you get any rust coming through at all?

 

cheers,

Pete.

[Chertsey]

How many coats do you use, and is that over bare metal or other paint?

 

Also do you get any rust coming through at all?

 

cheers,

Pete.

I've used five coats in the hold, three elsewhere on bare metal. But if you're bothered about permeability, but want a non-gloss finish, why not put a couple of coats of gloss and then rub down and finish with a coat or two of the 'primer'?

 

I've had no rust through but it's early days for me. Others have used it for ywears though and not had any problems. You want to go and look at the stuff, it's a million miles away from the thin looking stuff that you see with rust bleeding through it.

 

I really wish I had the tin to hand.

[c c]

Use this.

 

http://www.johnstonestrade.com/product-range/product.aspx?product=Red_Oxide_Paint

 

(Or scumble it)

 

Regards A

 

EDIT TO ADD:

This is not red oxide primer. It is a topcoat.

They don't call it gloss because it dries dries eggshell.

 

 

OK - I spent £21 on a can of Johnstomes Red Oxide Paint. Painted Badseys roof. Liked the colour and although it says Gloss on the can it does indeed have a nice eggshell/silk finis. Unfortunately after after 18 days, I am still waiting for it to dry under the nice silk finish, that will slide all over the place with finger pressure. Took the can back to Johnstones today and they telephoned the tech department. Their response was that I had made a common error when painitng a flat horizontal surface in applying it too think. (Er - no I didn't - I was a full time boat builder producing Uffa Fox specialist boats to high standard, have painted historic vehicles, aeroplanes and boats and I know how to apply paint). Oh well it was obvoiusly too cold, has to be applied above 10degreesC (I invited the bearer of this advice to place her finger on the very thin runlet of paint that had run down the side of the can three weeks ago when I poured some of the contents into my paint pot ... Oh look it is still soft and you have some on your finger...and that can hasn't left the house and has not ever been anywhere that was under 10degreesC - AND - it is a vertical surface !!!

Could I get a refund and information on the best way to get this sticky goo off my roof without ruining the excellent Masons paint job on the cabin sides?

Answer - "I'll have to speak to the manager" "just scrape it off and use white spirit to clean it down"

 

Oh, Yea - Can you imagine that mess?

 

Now you painty types out there -

1) this is Red Oxide. Its use is for painting onto metal, such as inside a steel hull, like on a canalboat. Should it have a warning on the tin that you have to remove your boat from the normally sub 10DegreeD Canal water that is (hopefully) on the other side of the steel hull in question, and light a fire under it until hot enough?

2) how do I get the unfortunate Johnstones Red Oxide Paint off of the roof and what do I use instead.

3) will it goo hard in a few months - in which case I'll leave it till spring.

[Chalky]

I used smoothrite red oxide. It appears to be celulose based and goes off quickly. Does pick up marks from walking on it, but it's thick and covers well. I've done both decks with it, and so far it appears to give good results. I've been asked by a couple of people if its Raddle red.

[madcat]

Badsey mine dried but it didnt hurry to do so.I will finish the job with it but will add a drop of Terebine dryers and paint a test panel [a bit of primed cardboard ] first.If I decide I want a green or other colour roof then the Red oxide will be used to paint inside the hold.No paints have been the same since the lead got taken out.Eau de nil roof anybody?