Does a 'sailaway' boat need a new HIN / CIN on completion ?

[Alan de Enfield]

This was a question raised a short while ago (I think it was the thread where LadyG thought her HIN/CIN was covered with foam insulation) about the use of the original hull manufacturers data-plate.

 

Whilst getting lost down the RCD rabbit warren looking for something else I came across the answer.

 

Since 2017 the sailaway hull is now classed as 'completed' boat in its own right as the builder does not intend to do any further work on it, so, to be sold it must be in compliance with the 'finished boat' requirements of the RCD/RCR and have, amongst other things, a manufacturers plate with the HIN/CIN number and the relevant data.

 

The HIN / CIN number incorporates the manufacturers personal identifier code and the date of manufacture ....................

 

 

 

However the 'new owner' intends to complete the boat from the sailaway stage, fitting (probably) electrics, gas, fire, stoves etc etc and therefore they become the builder.

The Hull builders declaration only covers what he built so he cannot be held responsible for anything fitted after it left his ownership.

 

The RCD/RCR therefore requires the 'new builder' to attach a builders plate with their own details in a new HIN/CIN. This would also apply after any 'major work' done on the boat requiring the issuing of a PCA, or, a boat without a certificate of compliance being sold via a distributor/broker who demanded a PCA (the surveyor becomes the responsible person and issues 'his' data plate)

 

The RCD/RCR explanation :

 

 

 

[Momac]

8 hours ago, Alan de Enfield said:

The RCD/RCR therefore requires the 'new builder' to attach a builders plate with their own details in a new HIN/CIN.

Except when the exemption from RCR under regulation 4 applies where the new  builder keeps the boat 5 years after first use.

 

[TandC]

On 01/01/2024 at 20:14, MartynG said:

Except when the exemption from RCR under regulation 4 applies where the new  builder keeps the boat 5 years after first use.

 

 

 

But hasn't that changed now so that exemption no longer applies - it's whenever the boat goes on the market, regardless ..?   

[matty40s]

2 minutes ago, TandC said:

 

 

But hasn't that changed now so that exemption no longer applies - it's whenever the boat goes on the market, regardless ..?   

This is exactly what the Brokers organisation are saying, regardless previous rules.

Of course some brokers will ignore this, and sell boats anyway, and some surveyors will not dig deep enough to ascertain whether everything matches either.

[Momac]

20 minutes ago, TandC said:

 

But hasn't that changed now so that exemption no longer applies - it's whenever the boat goes on the market, regardless ..?   

What has changed ?

The exemption written into the regulations 4-(g)  

The Recreational Craft Regulations 2017 (legislation.gov.uk)