Yet another CRT survey

[davem399]

I went to our local tip last week.  

On driving out, there is a sign stating that 99.7% of the waste is diverted from landfill.  What would be nice to know is exactly what happens to it all.  

[Barneyp]

52 minutes ago, Unicorn Stampede said:

We spent a winter at a CRT winter mooring which has a waste area with recycling bins.

 

Every week the Biffa truck turned up, and dumped the general waste and the recycling waste, one by one, into the same truck, no separation. 

 

After seeing that, not entirely convinced they bother to do actual recycling. It's possible I don't understand how they split it up, but it feels pointless to seperate it, then to bring it all in together again before taking it away.

The cost saving of only having to send one vehicle rather than two outweighs the cost of sorting and separating at the depot.

Even if they had a separate collection for the recycling they would still need to sort it into the different materials at the depot. 

The landfill tax means it would not be cost effective to not recycle at least some of it.

[Ronaldo47]

Mention has been made in another thread of the council that sends its non-recyclable residue to a power generation plant. It has had to enrich the residue with recyclable plastics to avoid paying penalty charges for failing to meet its contractual obligation to supply stuff with greater than a certain calorific value. 

Edited September 10, 2023 by Ronaldo47
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[David Mack]

11 hours ago, Unicorn Stampede said:

We spent a winter at a CRT winter mooring which has a waste area with recycling bins.

 

Every week the Biffa truck turned up, and dumped the general waste and the recycling waste, one by one, into the same truck, no separation. 

The CRT waste compound at Todmorden has a couple of the standard Biffa commercial size wheelie bins and a collection of mismatched recycling bins variously labelled glass, cans, paper etc.

A CRT chap confirmed that everything goes together into the same collection lorry, and they aren't really intending boaters to sort their waste. In fact the 'recycling' bins had all been pulled out of the canal at various locations, and CRT had just decided to 'recycle' them to provide additional bin capacity.

[Mike Todd]

19 hours ago, davem399 said:

I went to our local tip last week.  

On driving out, there is a sign stating that 99.7% of the waste is diverted from landfill.  What would be nice to know is exactly what happens to it all.  

Probably waste to energy. NB such systems do need a good proportion of burnable material and some had their economics undermined when the feeding LA opted for segregated collection in order to 'prove' their green credentials. 

 

This is an issue that is more complex than the political system can generally cope with!

Edited September 11, 2023 by Mike Todd

[davem399]

1 hour ago, Mike Todd said:

Probably waste to energy. NB such systems do need a good proportion of burnable material and some had their economics undermined when the feeding LA opted for segregated collection in order to 'prove' their green credentials. 

 

This is an issue that is more complex than the political system can generally cope with!

Yes, that’s what I thought.  They have plenty of skips for recycling, ie cardboard, garden waste, oil, metal, clothing, etc.  I guess that the material used to produce energy is the wood and suitable stuff in the general waste.