zenataomm

I used to live on the farm moorings just past lock 1 T&M at Shardlow. For those of you with Google Earth ......... 52 51 58.02N 1 20 03.97W (copy and past into the search) will put you on the path at the edge of the field where this wooden boat lies. It was certainly there when I started living there in the late 80's. Whilst using Mills' dockyard on the Erewash I was told that a couple or three sunken boats had been raised from the Trent some years previously (70's?) this being one of them, another was reputedly saved and restored, then there was an iron BCN boat the back end of which is sitting on ( or at least it was up to 5 years ago) the little parcel of land outside the farm cottage at 52 52 22.53N 1 20 03.95W Going back to the wooden boat on the bank of The Trent, I understand its T stud is now welded on the front of the shorter "Marcellus" which was made out of the back end and is now running backwards. At this point I run out of knowledge be it fact or hearsay. If anyone knows better please enlighten us all, somebody told me that somebody said is rampant! zenataomm

I thought about it once upon a twice. I'm glad I didn't get too excited as I subsequently realised that insurance companies seem to be more interested in an out of water survey report in order to renew comprehensive insurance. Consequently many surveyors now chuck in the BSS certificate for free when you do a full survey. A little more expensive I know, but more useful, regarding learning about the state of the boat, ensuring the correct insurance cover and getting the chance to throw some bitcho at the hull.

Well strictly speaking there is a Health & Safety directive that came from a Brussels issued findings report that states you may only have food cooking in the oven of a travelling canal boat if you have a fully qualified Food Cooking Risk Assessment Consultant on board. Luckily I am so qualified, and I am available every weekend for the next 3 months. zenataomm

I bought my knot roller rubbery thing from the shop at Whilton Marina about 9 months ago.

With the added bonus that you get to meet such a better of class of boater ........... don't you agree Stonehenge?????

My last post on the Tug & Butty thread read: - QUOTE(WJM @ Jan 31 2008, 11:23 AM) Thats settled that then - the Tug/Butty VAT wheeze is a commercial non-starter, whatever it's technical merits may be. Until the next person comes along with ............ "I've just read in Banal & Wot'away" that if you don't have a bottom in your boat you don't pay ........" "Hey everyone insure your new boat as a Wendy House then you can claim back 17.5% .........." "My mate knows a bloke down the pub whose friend's an expert and says if you register it in Berwick upon Tweed being neither English or Scottish then VAT.." What do you reckon a fortnight? I got that wrong!

Viewing it through a desktop pc it looked good to me. I found the front page easy to navigate away from. I liked the balance of photos and words. I hate sites that are hard work, yours wasn't. well done

The point I was making is that if your new planking is at right angles to any previous planking then you have to remove it all in order to get into the bilges, even though you may only want to get to a specific square foot of the bilge. Because the previous planking will be laying underneath every one of the new ones. Unless you are laying very short lengths of course, but you'd still need to take up many more than needed than if they were running parallel to each other. Not clever if you have an emergency on your hands.

I was up there over xmas, no probs with weed then

When laying planks for flooring don't do what a previous owner of my mate's boat did ............... He already had planking down which he didn't like and placed the new stuff on top of the old at ninety degrees to it! Not a problem until there was a need to get at the bilges in a hurry ............oops!

Dobsons at Shardlow used to call themselves "the osmosis centre" about ten years ago when I lived in the area. They had large drying sheds and all the gear, might be worth asking them.

You're going to save a fortune on moorings the way it comes apart like that and then stacks together!

......... at least the para senders with the lawn mower engine can still glide back to earth slower than 32 feet per second per second, when the Champion N9Y soots up. But who cares, just get back to your own place in the queue Carl.

My father went in his sleep ............... I've started doing that now!

That is the epitome of: - What an obviously stupid, dangerous invention. It is an accident waiting to happen. There is every opportunity to maim or kill somebody simply by the smallest of mechanical malfunctions. What on earth is anybody with more than two brain cells doing by being anywhere near THAT? And where can I have a go on one?

Until the next person comes along with ............ "I've just read in Banal & Wot'away" that if you don't have a bottom in your boat you don't pay ........" "Hey everyone insure your new boat as a Wendy House then you can claim back 17.5% .........." "My mate knows a bloke down the pub whose friend's an expert and says if you register it in Berwick upon Tweed being neither English or Scottish then VAT.." What do you reckon a fortnight?

I used to, not any more, I leave that to less jaded more energetic chaps now. If anyone wants to witness a real life example of biting the hand that feeds, give those swine a chance to close your business for a few days whilst they go through your paperwork, then walk out the door as if they'd never been there. They even answer your phone and announce to your customers and suppliers who they are and what they're doing in your company. That really builds confidence amongst your trading partners! Of course I'm not saying any of this happened to me, just a friend with an office in the shipping quarter of London a few years back.

We seem to have several threads running here on the same subject, below is one I posted a while back, I don't apologise for repeating it as it is relevant to the above line of thought. Namely that VAT Customs and Excise laws may be trifled with the same way you'd try to dodge paying a parking fine. Dangerous! Very, very dangerous. Interestingly attitudes like this always come from those who have never had to get into hand to hand combat with these licenced thugs. Take the old saying innocent until proven guilty, reverse it, and that is your starting point. In my experience Her Maj's Cust & Excise are not to be trifled with. They are not interested in standing around and chewing the cud. These are the people who have stronger powers than the police they don't need to wait for a ruling from the courts they can enter your property at any time without a warrant and can take what they want. I wouldn't recommend anyone convincing themselves that their own interpretation about the laws of vat are worth a fig. This is a governmental department that buys its company cars from auction, because they are used to them being rammed and damaged by upset "customers" As interesting as it is to debate any subject, especially when it concerns interpretation of law be careful. I urge anyone to take the worse case scenario for themselves as a default outcome when trying to prove you got it right and it was HMC&E who made a mistake. Even in the unlikely event that after many costly appeals you are proven to have a case, chances are they will have already ceased your property, not looked after it too well and you'll be lucky to get an apology. If the written description of a VAT ruling sounds vague, I can assure that is for their advantage and not yours. As for the issue of a boat not having fixed furniture nor an engine being Vat excempt, then I'll just pop out to unscrew the table in my cabin cruiser, remove the outboard then I'll see you in the VAT free queue at the chandlers' eh?