Psychalist

A great story and a lovely boat. Hope all goes well for you /G

No, I'm clear which is the correct filter (wider not narrower or longer) - just wanting to clarify what problems might ensue because previous owner and service company fitted the narrower less volume filter. Thanks for the heads-up re MES, though I'm a fair bit north of there. Supply doesn't appear to be a problem (common filter on lots of machinery) - getting suppliers to avoid supplying the narrower filter as an equivalent might be 🤔 /G

@Bengo, Thanks for that - it sounds like it's probably not an issue (as long as I keep monitoring oil quality and adhere to the short change interval). The parts manual has the same pump, relief valve and strainer for 2, 3 and 4 cylinder engines except the LPWT4:

Two sizes of oil filter are commonly used on LPWS marine engines. Both are 3/4-16 UN thread, 65mm height with an 8psi by-pass. The two cylinder variants use the smaller canister at 78mm diameter (Lister part no. 751-12870) and the three and four cylinder variants use the wider canister at 94mm diameter (Lister part no. 751-10620). Both are the same height with the difference in diameter resulting in volume 0.14ltr vs. 0.23ltr respectively. There are hundreds of equivalents used in many applications and suppliers (two local motor factors and some on-line) confuse the two filters indicating the smaller can replaces or is equivalent to for the (slightly) larger one. Both sizes are available and, having searched the forums here, LPWS owners appear happy to experiment by fitting different or even larger filters. The previous owner of our boat gave me a stock of the smaller filters. Even the company that reconditioned my three cylinder LPWS3 (before I bought it) also fitted the smaller filter. Oil changes on my engine have been done more frequently than the requisite 100hrs as stipulated in the workshop manual, which describes the oil system: "Oil in the sump is drawn into the pump through the oil strainer and is then delivered by the pump through a drilling in the crankcase to the hole nearest the outside of the cartridge type oil filter base. Filtered pressure oil passes through the centre of the filter into the oil gallery in the crankcase door and from the oil gallery it is delivered to the crankshaft and bearings..." My question is, what are the likely implications of using the smaller volume filter? /G

Interesting graphic. Rishton pound very full yesterday after the weekend's deluge.

Have you reset the top most circuit breaker for the starter solenoid? These are prone to failure after about 20 years as the springs inside become weak and can trip due to vibration rather than overload. I have the same unit and I'm in the process of replacing the fuel-cut one (engine not stopping) after the starter one was replaced (engine not starting).

I use to know a chap who had both dress and work clogs. His were made in Waterfoot, and (on-topic), they were not cold in winter.

And proper (red opposed to white stitching) Lancashire clogs too?

M for mystery. She knows you all like a bit of cat and mouse.

No, I meant the one at the marina .

Not sure anywhere in that range is reasonably priced. In order, Foxhangers, Caen Hill, Hilperton, Bradford-on-Avon, Brassknocker Basin (Coal Canal) or in-line (limited). For links search on along on Google maps. Some appear sheltered, others windy. I know availability has been hard to come by, though Brassknocker has been advertising recently and Caen Hill is large enough to have a regular turnover. I also know the pub at Bradford-on-Avon is expensive for lime and soda! /G

I'm not sure if it's true, but I think more private boats being offered for sale at the moment and many realistically priced. This appears to be giving brokers a reality check, especially some that tend to over-value boats. Having said that, there's will always be the oddity that makes one think - when what appears an overpriced boat sells quickly just proving it is just what people are willing to pay - often down to taste - one man's meat and all that. I feel generally most years demand/supply varies by season where, in early spring there is pent up demand. By this time of year, it fades to a more realistic approach - but perhaps more so this year?

A foot would be unusual but obviously depends on your boat. More usual 3-4in, perhaps a tad more. It doesn't go anywhere as it will tend to flow towards the stern and stop at the engine room bulkhead. You need access to the sub-floor to mop it up - unless your boat has a cabin bilge pump, which most narrowboats don't have as standard. Access would be via an access hatch in the floor, which you might need to cut yourself.

I suspect given some of the reductions needed to garner interest, the room for negotiation has got a significantly larger but some sellers are in denial having their boats on the market for 12 months or more. I image that is frustrating some for whom the cash is what's left to top up a pension.