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Also zero percent entertainment value, eh.

You feel into the same trap as I did Biz - see post #28

Oh Crikey, they were a lot more detailed then, or at least easier to read at that scale! No wonder the Amazon reviewer said it was much more difficult to see Bridge Numbers on latest versions.

I saw the title "Fried......" and thought this thread should have been in the "recipes" section, but it turns out out it should have been posted under "general disagreements"!

I don't know if the recipe is any good yet Foxy! I gave that greenie cos posting it here for me was an act of kindness. Tell you what, I'll give you one here (if you'll pardon the expression), but you'll have to hand it in to the nearest police canteen if I make the dish and don't enjoy it!

Well, I can answer my own question a bit now, because Waterstone's had both! The difference is that the 5 Star is a bit more compact than the plain old Navigator at the expense of scale. The Navigator is 1.5 inch to the mile, the 5 Star 1.78 inch to the mile. Otherwise the detail and rrp is the same, and the Truckers Atlas is pretty much identical too. The Truckers Breakfast info seems to be in all variants, so maybe there's no great reason to pick that one. They all have Bridge Numbers, with canals clearly shown. Locks are shown too, but I found a couple in places where locks are shown but there are none (Hanbury Junction). Still, it's bridge numbers that are handiest in my view, enabling you to switch from Nicholsons canal and a few hundred yards to full detail to see what's beyond or to plan pick up points for visitors, etc. All three variants I found were 2014 editions, and all were spiral bound. Thanks to all who contributed; I hope my input is also helpful to others. I'll be asking Santa for the Navigator rather than the 5 Star. ETA an example about misplaced locks.

I started that last night and I'm away at the moment so the actual cooking is a while away. How's that for conscientious cheffing? Actually, I figured a little Argentine Malbec would add an interesting Latin dimension to the dish, so I'm a little off piste here!

Thanks guys! They're on Amazon see, so I haven't had a touchy feely look. Both appear to be spiral bound, and the 5 Star titled one has a comment in the reviews bit about the bridge numbers being harder to see than they used to be - I think he meant scale change rather than he'd lost his reading glasses! The longevity of the pages in the spiral binders get some criticism in both. So really it's down to what the latest editions are like in terms of canal features and their clarity I suppose. Does anyone have one of those? It wouldn't surprise me to find they're the same with different title pages, but a visit to Waterstones won't sort that cos they're unlikely to carry both. If anyone does have a newish one, write quickly so I can get my note off to Santa before this thread turns into Stove Fans again!

OK, Santa's coming soon and he might turn up with one of these as I understand they show canal bridge numbers and other useful stuff. However, there's a Navigator Britain and a Five Star Navigator Britain at similar prices. Which one do you think Santa should bring?

Thank you! Replied and greenied over in the recipe section.

How so very nice of you! A greenie for your effort.

Crikey, EOn were heavily penalised recently for not fitting Smart Meters quickly enough! You must really thrive on falling out with 'authority'!

Well, that's cleared that up! Have you thought about trying: "Hello,CRT? I have a kayak and....' Just a thought.

Some folk would get bent out of shape if CRT sent them a Christmas card with a free licence in it.

Would you be kind enough to post that interesting recipe in the recipes section please EF? I could copy it, but I'm on my phone and I'd like to be sure to find it again at a more convenient time.

Perhaps you shouldn't have declared your intent to leave the genny running all day?

Sometimes you just can't be "opted out" with impunity, eh? See what happens if you're so cavalier about a road fund licence!

I have never had this issue. I've done oil changes whilst out cruising and dropped the old oil in containers at CRT waste facilities even in the centre of Brum. For example, I was on visitor moorings by Cambrian Wharf, popped into the CRT office there and asked whether there was somewhere to dispose of old oil and was cheerfully invited to leave it by the bins in their shed. I duly changed my oil and popped the old stuff in there - next to someone elses. If you're selective about where and when you do the job, and a few running hours early or late is neither here nor there, there's no need to transport old oil by car. That said, I do concede that 4 changes a year does rather challenge my point Frank!

Actually, I don't have evidence because I think you might be right Bill. Plenty of evidence that used oil from petrol engines is carcinogenic it seems, but I'm surprised to learn not from diesel engines. It's a bad day when you don't learn something, so thanks!

Whilst expanding foam will stick like, well, horrible sticky stuff, it also expands like unpredictability expanding horrible sticky stuff. Imagine Paddington was on your boat roof making marmalade sandwiches with industrial quantities of marmalade that won't come off..... I wouldn't.