Cardboard Boats

[alan_fincher]

51 minutes ago, Athy said:

I think that a small number of dedicated anorak-wearers did build track which was the right gauge for 00 models - was it called EM Gauge?

EM gauge is the same 4mm to the foot scale, but with track gauge increased from 16.5mm to 18mm. (EM stands for "eighteen milliimetre"

That does make the track look more correct, but still only represents a gauge of 4' 6", still not enough for 4' 8.5"

 

As Ray says, things like Proto4 are needed for it to be a truly accurate representation of the gauge.

[Athy]

6 minutes ago, alan_fincher said:

EM gauge is the same 4mm to the foot scale, but with track gauge increased from 16.5mm to 18mm. 

That does make the track look more correct, but still only represents a gauge of 4' 6", still not enough for 4' 8.5"

 

 

Yes, that's what I meant.

Intriguing, though, that those sticklers for accuracy STILL didn't get it quite right.

[DRP]

The explanation I've seen for the phenomenon of 00, is that when h0 was introduced, it worked fine for Continental prototypes, but its scale of 3.5mm to the foot meant that the smaller British prototype locomotives would be too small to accommodate the mass-produced miniature electric motors that were avilable at the time.Increasing the scale to 4mm meant that the motors would fit, but keeping the gauge at"half 0" made the locos and rolling stock look too big for the track - stimulating the sticklers for accuracy to embark on the quest for "fine scale", when todays wide range of tiny electric motors(mostly made in China), became available.

Now retaining information like that is real anorakism !

[Laurence Hogg]

On ‎21‎/‎02‎/‎2018 at 09:38, Athy said:

Yes, that's what I meant.

Intriguing, though, that those sticklers for accuracy STILL didn't get it quite right.

Surely 18.83mm is the correct width? This spurned the P4 society some years ago. Personally 16.5mm keeps me happy.

[Manty]

Hello all, after 40 years working with narrowboats and repairing them, an interest that also interested my father who was an accomplished model maker, mainly scale ships in bottles and glass cases, he passed on back in 1988 and now I'm retired I find myself looking for homes for a collection of models, amongst them. Thanks to your web site I identified the Garth Allen card models of President and Northwich 4 mm scale, they are very well assembled and wonder what value they might have? Also a very unique item of the pair in a bottle at 1:130 scale!  Depicting a visit to Aynho with Blue Peter in 1982 when I was working there.

 

 

 

 

[Ray T]

@Manty, welcome to the forum.
Due to a short period of ill health a while ago, my normal canal activities were curtailed for a while.

To maintain my interest in canals my wife suggested I build model canal boats.

To date I have built 11 of various types, the attached photo's are two examples, they are 1:24 and 1:32 scale.

As far as value of yours I wouldn't like to guess. May I suggest you look on eBay as a guide.

Building my size models for profit will never cost in, in my experience. If you include labour, parts list, purchase of the unassembled kit or wood for scratch building, you are looking at getting on for £1,000! I know of no one who would give me that.  Anyway I build them for pleasure.

Edited March 12 by Ray T

[ditchcrawler]

2 hours ago, Manty said:

Hello all, after 40 years working with narrowboats and repairing them, an interest that also interested my father who was an accomplished model maker, mainly scale ships in bottles and glass cases, he passed on back in 1988 and now I'm retired I find myself looking for homes for a collection of models, amongst them. Thanks to your web site I identified the Garth Allen card models of President and Northwich 4 mm scale, they are very well assembled and wonder what value they might have? Also a very unique item of the pair in a bottle at 1:130 scale!  Depicting a visit to Aynho with Blue Peter in 1982 when I was working there.

 

 

 

 

I could never sell that pair in a bottle 

[Manty]

Thanks for your input Ray T, I also made a working model narrowboat which was radio controlled, I purchased a Kit, circa 1980, I think from Minden Marine? It consisted of two halves in polystyrene, plus bits and pieces to complete, I sold it on Ebay recently where it made £100. I attach a photo for interests sake. Looked to be "0" gauge, my helmsman was a bit oversize! As you say, models rarely achieve a realistic value for the labour that's put in, my father made some pocket money with his ships in bottles built on commission.

[Chris Lowe]

11 hours ago, Manty said:

Thanks for your input Ray T, I also made a working model narrowboat which was radio controlled, I purchased a Kit, circa 1980, I think from Minden Marine? It consisted of two halves in polystyrene, plus bits and pieces to complete, I sold it on Ebay recently where it made £100. I attach a photo for interests sake. Looked to be "0" gauge, my helmsman was a bit oversize! As you say, models rarely achieve a realistic value for the labour that's put in, my father made some pocket money with his ships in bottles built on commission.

I have that same kit, but have never finished it.

[Ray T]

This is the kit,

[Chris Lowe]

Thats the one, I got as far as fixing the hull together & mounting a stern tube, I got a nive electric motor & even made my own universal coupling.

[CIEL]

When I saw the title of the thread - my mind went straight to this event on the Ouse in York, July 2011:-

We became an impromptu rescue boat for the viking!