huntergatherer Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) My new boat currently has 2x alternators and a stirling battery management system fitted I x starter 3 x leisure, so a pretty standard set up. My main usage will be a refrigerator, water pump, a few lights in the evenings that I am not at work and a TV at the weekends when my boy comes. I am going to be living aboard (CC) I will be giving the existing wiring a thorough check over/ tidy up and installing new batteries, a decent charger which I will run with my honda EU20i and solar panels, I have allowed a budget of £1500 . Any suggestions ...... Edited March 12, 2014 by huntergatherer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) My new boat currently has 2x alternators and a stirling battery management system fitted I x starter 3 x leisure, so a pretty standard set up. My main usage will be a refrigerator, water pump, a few lights in the evenings that I am not at work and a TV at the weekends when my boy comes. I am going to be living aboard (CC) I will be giving the existing wiring a thorough check over/ tidy up and installing new batteries, a decent charger which I will run with my honda EU20i and solar panels, I have allowed a budget of £1500 . Any suggestions ...... Which of these things do you wish your budget to cover? Edited March 12, 2014 by Grace & Favour spilling mestakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattlad Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 My new boat currently has 2x alternators and a stirling battery management system fitted I x starter 3 x leisure, so a pretty standard set up. My main usage will be a refrigerator, water pump, a few lights in the evenings that I am not at work and a TV at the weekends when my boy comes. I am going to be living aboard (CC) I will be giving the existing wiring a thorough check over/ tidy up and installing new batteries, a decent charger which I will run with my honda EU20i and solar panels, I have allowed a budget of £1500 . Any suggestions ...... £2500. Maybe even 3........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntergatherer Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I am hoping to get a battery charger, was thinking of one of the stirling 60amp ones, possibly two 220ah batteries and a new starter Solar panels and a controller I suppose really it's the type of batteries/panels and charge controller I'm most undecided about, provided no one has anything negative to say about stirling chargers, or can recommend a better one for the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Do a power audit that includes power usage and generation. Look for some realistic data relating to charging rates from solar / land line / generator looking at overall efficiencies throughout a typical year. Factor in the cost of actually generating that power. Use this to then prioritise what you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntergatherer Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'm not too up on arithmetic, so the calculation side of things is a bit out of my league, I'm happy to run the generator a few of times a week for an hour or so to top things up, if n when needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete & Helen Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Lot of useful info on electrics and solar power on smilypete's post here http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=63494 I'm looking at some solar and "bimble solar" seem to have a lot of satisfied customers from here. They have a power calculator and lots of info even if you dont use them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'm not too up on arithmetic, so the calculation side of things is a bit out of my league, I'm happy to run the generator a few of times a week for an hour or so to top things up, if n when needed On average you be running the generator for approx 1-2 hours a day when not cruising, summer time will be less with solar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0atman Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Why change batteries ? what size is existing charger ? you will need probably initially 300watt minimum solar panels and a mppt controller look at other posts for where to get them from . Generator will be needed for next winter so investigate what is available for then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grace and Favour Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'm not too up on arithmetic, so the calculation side of things is a bit out of my league, I'm happy to run the generator a few of times a week for an hour or so to top things up, if n when needed Before you choose your charger - it's worthwhile to read this article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntergatherer Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Lot of useful info on electrics and solar power on smilypete's post here http://www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=63494 I'm looking at some solar and "bimble solar" seem to have a lot of satisfied customers from here. They have a power calculator and lots of info even if you dont use them Thank you .-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntergatherer Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Why change batteries ? what size is existing charger ? you will need probably initially 300watt minimum solar panels and a mppt controller look at other posts for where to get them from . Generator will be needed for next winter so investigate what is available for then I want to start off with new batteries, there is not currently a charger fitted, just the alternators, with regard the solar I'm not sure whether to go for flexible panels or the ex domestic ones from Bimble I already have a Honda EU20i generator Before you choose your charger - it's worthwhile to read this articleThank you Which of these things do you wish your budget to cover?Batteries 2 x 220ah approx £500Charger stirling 60ah approx £500 Solar panels/controller £500 On average you be running the generator for approx 1-2 hours a day when not cruising, summer time will be less with solar. I hope I won't, I only use a few lights in the evening when I'm at home, shower for a few minutes (upon occasion) I'll get some candles if it comes to that Edited March 12, 2014 by huntergatherer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalky Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I'm not too up on arithmetic, so the calculation side of things is a bit out of my league, That's a pity. A lot of this can be calculated using a spreadsheet some very basic maths and could save you making the wrong decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0atman Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 By flexible solar panels if these are the stick on type my experience was that they lifted the paint and failed after 4 years .the best are solid mounted on brackets so that they can be tilted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudd Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Which of these things do you wish your budget to cover? You could get a good charger and very good batteries for £1500 surely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntergatherer Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 By flexible solar panels if these are the stick on type my experience was that they lifted the paint and failed after 4 years .the best are solid mounted on brackets so that they can be tilted. Sorry I meant the semi flexible ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) I hope I won't, I only use a few lights in the evening when I'm at home, shower for a few minutes (upon occasion) I'll get some candles if it comes to that A fridge will use from 30-50ah, at bulk charging that will take around 30-50 minutes if 100 efficient for a 60amp charger. 83% efficiency is more likely, but your batteries won't take the full 60amp for the last 10% of charge, this last 10% will take around 2-3 hours alone (I only fully charge once a week). In summer time solar could cover your usage, but not in winter. Edited March 12, 2014 by Robbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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