ChrisPy Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 my local industrial paint supplier recommended using matt vinyl emulsion paint over standard oil-based undercoat for painting the roof, where I want a non-glare surface with some non-slip quality. He said he regularly supplies it for painting the roofs of portacabins, which are probably never repainted during their lifetime of about 5 to 10 years. this seemed silly, but on reflection it may be a good solution. It is easy to apply and to renew if it gets marked. any comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Orentas Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Speechless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_fincher Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 A textured wallpaper, using a suitable waterproof glue, should I think give you the non-slip finish you are seeking!..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullfrog Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I use this a lot in the public areas of my shop. Reason - because it always get scuffed, delivery men whacking parcels against the wall etc. - and it's easy to touch back in without doing a complete re-paint, BUT it does scuff very easily and I can't imagine it standing up to the wear and tear a roof gets with poles, planks, centre ropes, and feet on and off all the time. NO WAY. Regards David B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moley Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 vinyl emulsion ... for painting the roofs of portacabins, which are probably never repainted during their lifetime but aren't walked on and don't carry many ropes / poles / bikes / logs .... I like Alan's idea though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bustens Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 No it would peel up at the edges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackrose Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 You mean using it as an undercoat? I don't like that idea at all. I know you'd have some topcoats but emulsion paint is porus and might let water thorugh if the topcoats are scratched. Also there might be an issue with compatibility of oil-based topcoats (or maybe not?) I can't really see the point - what's wrong with an oil-based undercoat? Having said that I once used an exterior masonry paint along the gunnels of a narrowboat and went over it with gloss. I worked quite well as a non-slip surface! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayranger Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 on my boat canal boat that is im having artext on the roof which is hard wearing anti climb paint on the sides and pigeon deflectors on the hand rail,not very tradtional but praticaul and to stop the sun getting to my eyes i will look like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidandheather Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 (edited) on my boat canal boat that is im having artext on the roof which is hard wearing anti climb paint on the sides and pigeon deflectors on the hand rail,not very tradtional but praticaul and to stop the sun getting to my eyes i will look like this Hi our roof is painted with epifanes matt deck paint .It is anti glare and anti slip and seems to wear well. also in can be touched up with no problems David Edited May 9, 2006 by davidandheather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnlowe Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Just an idea, but have you considered wood chip wall paper, that should give you the non slip element, then you could always wack it over with emulsion after!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 My mate swears by that stuff for concrete floors (usually red or grey). Never used it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy-Neil Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 The water base is just the medium in which the paint is applied, it evapourates when the paint cures. Its not as if its going to wash off. New cars are all supplied with water based paint these days, though polyurathane (plastic) lacquered to give it durability, and all bodyshops will be repairing with water based by 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPy Posted May 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 The water base is just the medium in which the paint is applied, it evapourates when the paint cures. Its not as if its going to wash off. New cars are all supplied with water based paint these days, though polyurathane (plastic) lacquered to give it durability, and all bodyshops will be repairing with water based by 2007. does that mean that there's little difference in weathering, waterproof and wearing quality between an alkyd oil-based paint and a vinyl base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Orentas Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 does that mean that there's little difference in weathering, waterproof and wearing quality between an alkyd oil-based paint and a vinyl base? Chris. An emulsion and a solution is not the same thing at all, if fact an emulsion of two fluids means they do not mix but stay completely separate. Were you really serious about using emulsion paint on a boat ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPy Posted May 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Chris. An emulsion and a solution is not the same thing at all, if fact an emulsion of two fluids means they do not mix but stay completely separate. Were you really serious about using emulsion paint on a boat ? but the end result appears to be that the medium, be it spirit or water, evaporates and leaves behind a plastic type paint film. I am serious about enquiring what is the difference between the finished paint film in respect of the qualities I mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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