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I've heard nothing about this on the "national" news.

I feel sorry for the original poster. It was their first post and I can imagine they might be wondering if they a responsible for opening Pandora's box.

If you do a search you will find one or two posts about this.

I don't know about the specific wording in this case but just because a clause is included in a contract it doesn't mean its enforceable in law. The law decides that, if tested.

But only the hire ones are legal to use there.

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/canoeing-and-kayaking-near-me/licensing-your-canoe But would you know the rules if you were a casual show up canoe/ paddleboard person? It's not obvious if you are new to it and where there aren't any helpful blue signs.

I agree. I made a mistake splitting points over a couple of posts. I was basically saying everyone should pay council tax, at homeaddress if a leisure boater, at the mooring if a residential or leisure (under the radar) liveaboard, or via CRT, if a boat without a mooring. Just one council tax per household somewhere in the system. As a give back to people not currently paying council tax : people living full time on leisure moorings (currently under the radar) could be recognised with residential rights. People without a home mooring could contribute to the things we all access as citizens but, in recognition of things they don't use such a council bin collections, a proportion of their tax could go to CRT for some of the facilities they provide that boaters (not exclusively boaters with no home mooring) access, such as online waste bins, sanitary stations etc.

This was referring to boats without a home mooring. Liveaboards with a home mooring , residental and leisure, were mentioned in my previous post.

I already (sort of) suggested people living full time at a leisure moorings could pay council tax in return for being accepted as residential. I was suggesting everyone should pay one council tax, or an equivalent, either at their home address for leisure boaters, mooring (if people have one) or via CRT if they don't. It seems reasonable everyone should contribute and ties in with comments about what will happen when people under the radar come into open light. I don't think it will happen because of the small number of people affected and the time, expense and effort it would involve.

Also, getting a bit controversial, continuous cruisers don't get all the benefits a homeowner gets but do benefit from a lot of the things council tax payers fund. CRT know who are continuous cruisers. There could be a "council tax levy" added to their licence. A portion could go go towards providing the local services they use in common with homeowners and, given they don't access all services such as bin collection, CRT could keep a portion to go towards the rubbish, sanitary services etc they provide for boaters. All boaters can use these services but continuous cruisers will use them more often.

Second home owners will have already accessed the £400 for each house (over 6 months). If not renting the second house out they will be benefitting as they only use power at one house at a time. The standing charge has gone up but it's the unit price that's really making a difference. The system isn't in place to deal with all the different scenarios. I just hope boaters who don't liveaboard don't take the system for a ride, and those that do liveaboard get some help, continuous cruiser, leisure mooring liveaboard, whatever. It's easy to criticise people living full time on leisure moorings under the radar. I expect a fair proportion, but not everyone, would be prepared to have a residential mooring and pay council tax if the moorings weren't like hen's teeth and didn't coat a premium over other moorings. I don't know why it's like it is but guess it's something to do with marina licensing terms restricting the number of residential moorings.

Electric scooters are currently on legal on roads that aren't private when they a official hire scooters in the trial areas. It's just that shops still sell them and it appears no action is taken against people using them illegally. https://electroheads.com/blogs/news/electric-scooters-legal-uk-law

Households where everyone is a student don't pay council tax.