Nobody mentioned arguing over anything, well apart from you< I merely supplied some facts to help the discussion along. However I suspect that there are ways of using electric propulsion which aren't as dangerous as escooters.
For example I would like to see the comparison in environmental damage between say escooters and electric public transport (which is basically what trams were when I was a kid).
Two thoughts.
One the reintroduction of "conductors" and full use of various technologies could make late night public transport safe.
Two there is a difference between feeling safer and being safer, do you have any figures to show public transport is more dangerous than the use of an escooter, sometimes in the dark, on a road (which I understand is the only way they can/will be legal to use.
No they weren't they were given the penalty points for breaking the law. To say it was for trying to get home safely implies she was penalised for something which isn't against the law, which is completely untrue.
True the rider probably would, however over 1 in 3 of the serious injuries wasn't the rider but an innocent person.
Is it right to subject members of the public to one third of the serious injuries caused by e-scooter drivers? It is swings and round abouts.
First question can you give me a link for this please. Second point "estimated" not a good basis for basing things on IMO. By the way I hope you aren't linking my figures to the estimated trips as no mention is made in my reference of number of trips.
How do the injuries/fatalities compare to the many millions of trips made by other forms of transport including e-bikes?
See above. Also you can't include illegal journey as it has been already pointed out many/most accidents when used illegally will not be recorded because they are being used illegally.
My be not but to me your figures etc are spun to ensure it seems less serious than it may be.
You are being overly emotional about e-scooters, nobody, other than you, has suggested there shouldn't be environmentally sound methods of getting around. The discussion is about whether e-scooters are the way forward or some other environmentally sound method.